SCcanyoncrvr
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- Kev
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- 2019 Civic Si Sedan
amazing lol for me it’s worth itHow is the handling?
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amazing lol for me it’s worth itHow is the handling?
I have spc front and rear.Awesome build! Thanks for the tip -- any brand of camber kit/ sway bar that you recommend?
Have you installed those control arms yet? Do you like them?What makes the anti lift kit uncomfortable for daily driving? Just bought the super pro lower controls arms. Don’t know if those bushings are just as stiff.
Wow, a $15 upgrade is hard to argue with! Does it have any drawbacks?The Type R subframe brace added just a little bit of firmness, enough I could feel the car reacting more predictably to quick left-right changes or lifting the throttle mid-corner. Not a huge improvement but for a $15 part it’s absolutely worth it.
The trunk brace will firm up the rear end, the sedan has a decent amount of flex in the rear. Same impact - better feedback to the driver and more predictable especially in quick changes. Strut bar is the same also but our fronts are already pretty strong, I wonder how much of a difference it will actually make.
Good to know -- definitely don't want lots of added noise. The alignment shop said my camber is only slightly out of spec... I'm wondering how much of a difference that will make on tread life.Aftermarket endlinks tend to be noisy, not worth changing. Camber kit you don't need if you're still in alignment.
Subframe brace, I didn't feel any real difference but for $20, why not, and I was under the car anyway.
Rear sway bar is night and day difference. Went with whiteline 22 on soft setting (123% stiffer than SI bar) and it's perfect for me. Accord metal endlinks are $30, again for quietness. It highlights the need for better tires and lowering springs, which you already have.
If it's a daily, 26 is too much IMO but YMMV. Would suggest looking at the 22. Also stupid easy to do on the SI. Strut bars have diminished results the higher tier civic you go, but it looks good and isn't expensive so not a terrible choice either.
If you’re looking for better rotation around corners alignment is 1000% needed. Trust me when I say this. You can view my profile and watch my videos in the canyon and on the track. @brakefastclub_kev I do spirited drives every weekend and daily drive my car.Have you installed those control arms yet? Do you like them?
Wow, a $15 upgrade is hard to argue with! Does it have any drawbacks?
Does the coupe have similar rear flex to the sedan or is it stiff enough to not need the trunk brace?
Good to know -- definitely don't want lots of added noise. The alignment shop said my camber is only slightly out of spec... I'm wondering how much of a difference that will make on tread life.
Yeah, hard to argue with a $20 upgrade haha. Upgrades that cheap are a rarity for sure.
I think the whiteline 22 would be a good choice for me -- big improvement over OEM without sacrificing comfort. And those Accord endlinks seem to be a good compromise too -- improvment over the plastic OEM ones, but without the added noise. Did you add the Accord endlinks to the front as well, or just the rear?
Thanks for the info on the strut bar. It's interesting to hear the different effects it has on different Civic tiers.
Awesome, thanks again for the advice! How much negative camber do you use in your setup?If you’re looking for better rotation around corners alignment is 1000% needed. Trust me when I say this. You can view my profile and watch my videos in the canyon and on the track. @brakefastclub_kev I do spirited drives every weekend and daily drive my car.
Just the rear. I don't think I'll be messing with the front at all.Have you installed those control arms yet? Do you like them?
Wow, a $15 upgrade is hard to argue with! Does it have any drawbacks?
Does the coupe have similar rear flex to the sedan or is it stiff enough to not need the trunk brace?
Good to know -- definitely don't want lots of added noise. The alignment shop said my camber is only slightly out of spec... I'm wondering how much of a difference that will make on tread life.
Yeah, hard to argue with a $20 upgrade haha. Upgrades that cheap are a rarity for sure.
I think the whiteline 22 would be a good choice for me -- big improvement over OEM without sacrificing comfort. And those Accord endlinks seem to be a good compromise too -- improvment over the plastic OEM ones, but without the added noise. Did you add the Accord endlinks to the front as well, or just the rear?
Thanks for the info on the strut bar. It's interesting to hear the different effects it has on different Civic tiers.
I am running -1.8 front and -2 rear. The factory alignment is designed for slight understeer which is safer for most drivers. But under hard cornering the car will just push forward vs actually turning and Your tires will wear out on the outside before anything.Awesome, thanks again for the advice! How much negative camber do you use in your setup?
Does my slightly out of spec camber from the lowering springs negatively affect my rotation around corners in a big way? Or do you just mean that getting it dialed in with the spc arms will cause a huge positive difference?
Yeah definitely planning on getting the rear sway bar ? I'll probably go with the whiteline 22 for a more moderate setup. I am running upgraded wheels and tires -- Enkei TM7 and Michelin PS4SI am running -1.8 front and -2 rear. The factory alignment is designed for slight understeer which is safer for most drivers. But under hard cornering the car will just push forward vs actually turning and Your tires will wear out on the outside before anything.
yes you will notice a difference and I also said get the rear sway bar too. So I don’t have to exit this message, you running upgraded wheels and tires?
I haven’t install them yet, still waiting for them to get delivered.Have you installed those control arms yet? Do you like them?
Wow, a $15 upgrade is hard to argue with! Does it have any drawbacks?
Does the coupe have similar rear flex to the sedan or is it stiff enough to not need the trunk brace?
Good to know -- definitely don't want lots of added noise. The alignment shop said my camber is only slightly out of spec... I'm wondering how much of a difference that will make on tread life.
Yeah, hard to argue with a $20 upgrade haha. Upgrades that cheap are a rarity for sure.
I think the whiteline 22 would be a good choice for me -- big improvement over OEM without sacrificing comfort. And those Accord endlinks seem to be a good compromise too -- improvment over the plastic OEM ones, but without the added noise. Did you add the Accord endlinks to the front as well, or just the rear?
Thanks for the info on the strut bar. It's interesting to hear the different effects it has on different Civic tiers.
Woah, is pulling the rear tire off the ground a good thing? ? Sounds more dangerous!K-tuned springs, whiteline rsb with accord endlinks, whiteline front endlinks, dc front strut bar, and spc rear camber kit, and 255/35/18’s on some enkei NT03’s in a 18x9.5 + 40 make my si handle really good. On some turns I pull the rear tire off the ground.
Accord endlinks have a metal body, stock si’s are molded plastic. The whiteline adjustable front end links are needed when you lower the car, and you can fine tune the front sway bar. Plenty of YouTube videos on front sway bar adjustable endlinks as far as adjusting.Woah, is pulling the rear tire off the ground a good thing? ? Sounds more dangerous!
Is there a reason you went with Accord endlinks in the rear but whiteline endlinks in the front?
Thanks for your input!
Most coil overs come with new front endlinks.Accord endlinks have a metal body, stock si’s are molded plastic. The whiteline adjustable front end links are needed when you lower the car, and you can fine tune the front sway bar. Plenty of YouTube videos on front sway bar adjustable endlinks as far as adjusting.