Sport hatch front lip on Si?

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I don't especially like most of the front lips out there, but I discovered that the Sport/Sport Touring perhaps other hatch trims have a slightly different front lip that extends more past the edges of the bumper than the Si front lip.

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Also, the Si grille mesh & lip (part # 71102-TBF-A00) are one piece together like this...

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While the hatch is two separate pieces of the lip (71102-TGG-A50) & mesh (71107-TGG-A50).

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So I got to thinking that it'd be a small subtle little thing to take the 2-piece hatch grille mesh & lower lip, paint the lip and leave the grille mesh black. Anybody have any idea if the mounting points will work? Because the bumpers for the hatch and Si look very similar but they're different part #s (04711-TGG-A00ZZ for hatch & 04711-TBF-A01ZZ for Si). So I don't want to assume that these things will interchange.





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I don't especially like most of the front lips out there, but I discovered that the Sport/Sport Touring perhaps other hatch trims have a slightly different front lip that extends more past the edges of the bumper than the Si front lip.

Honda-Civic_Hatchback-2017-1600-66.jpg

Honda-Civic_Si_Sedan-2017-1600-2c.jpg


Honda-Civic_Hatchback-2017-1600-95.jpg
Honda-Civic_Si_Sedan-2020-1600-14.jpg


Also, the Si grille mesh & lip (part # 71102-TBF-A00) are one piece together like this...

si lip.jpg


While the hatch is two separate pieces of the lip (71102-TGG-A50) & mesh (71107-TGG-A50).

bdba9eb574bd7faf81139905cc6b637c.png


So I got to thinking that it'd be a small subtle little thing to take the 2-piece hatch grille mesh & lower lip, paint the lip and leave the grille mesh black. Anybody have any idea if the mounting points will work? Because the bumpers for the hatch and Si look very similar but they're different part #s (04711-TGG-A00ZZ for hatch & 04711-TBF-A01ZZ for Si). So I don't want to assume that these things will interchange.
Based on this listing from ABS the lip fits 2dr and 4dr Si as well as 5dr so I think that means the mounting points are the same - https://absdynamics.com/collections...d-type-r-style-front-front-lip-carbon-asscent - buuuuut......

I would look into the Greddy lip or some of the other ones that protrude a bit further. If you haven't seen them in person... The Si and Sport hatch front "lips" are barely different from each other and if you ask me aren't even a lip. They are barely visible most of the time. But this is my opinion and maybe you want minimalist, I'm just offering my two cents!

Here is the Greddy lip for Si: https://www.jmautosports.com/produc...LY13qz4O_NLd9_sLWPbq3AjkerckF4aMaAjjsEALw_wcB

I like the ABSDynamics Type R style lip above all else but I know not everyone likes the little "winglets" on the sides and I assume that's why you want something more reserved. The ABS one fits like a glove though with stock mounting points and you don't have to drill into your bumper or anything.

That being said, I do have a stock hatchback sport lip since you replace the whole thing for the ABSDynamics one, if you still wanted to go through with this... It's in near mint shape as the front lip was one of my first mods.
 

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Oh my god this part is like $400 and I doubt that is free shipping... holy crap. Yeah, PM me if you really want this front lip honestly I bet we can work something out for a lot less overall.
 
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Definitely going for minimalism here. I don't like the lips with winglets and the GReddy lip looks all kinds of wrong to me. I just want to create a little more finished appearance at the bottom of the front bumper.

Since the Si lip is one piece with the grille mesh, if I did the hatch lip I'd need to get both the lip and the separate grille mesh. The solution for me could just as easily be to have the Si lip painted, but if I could snag a Sport hatch lip off someone (and possibly buy the matching grille mesh) that's cheaper than buying the very expensive OE piece new.

Not looking to do this immediately but trying to figure out if the 2-piece hatch lip + grille is a direct fit replacement for the 1-piece Si lip + grille.

Also I found Ikon Motorsports sells what they describe as an OE replacement lip for hatch and Si, that from their pics appears to stick out a little more like the hatch, and does not include the grille mesh like the Si piece.

https://ikonmotorsports.com/products/fits-16-20-honda-civic-si-sedan-coupe-oe-front-lip

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$120 for this is much more palatable than the lowest price I saw for the OE Honda hatch lip (71102-TGG-A50) which was $367. I could add it to the OE Honda hatch grille mesh (71107-TGG-A50) which is $85.

Basically I'm trying to figure out if 71102-TGG-A50 (or the Ikon equivalent) & 71107-TGG-A50 combined into 1 piece will bolt in place of 71102-TBF-A00.
 
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Definitely going for minimalism here. I don't like the lips with winglets and the GReddy lip looks all kinds of wrong to me. I just want to create a little more finished appearance at the bottom of the front bumper.

Since the Si lip is one piece with the grille mesh, if I did the hatch lip I'd need to get both the lip and the separate grille mesh. The solution for me could just as easily be to have the Si lip painted, but if I could snag a Sport hatch lip off someone (and possibly buy the matching grille mesh) that's cheaper than buying the very expensive OE piece new.

Not looking to do this immediately but trying to figure out if the 2-piece hatch lip + grille is a direct fit replacement for the 1-piece Si lip + grille.

Also I found Ikon Motorsports sells what they describe as an OE replacement lip for hatch and Si, that from their pics appears to stick out a little more like the hatch, and does not include the grille mesh like the Si piece.

https://ikonmotorsports.com/products/fits-16-20-honda-civic-si-sedan-coupe-oe-front-lip

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$120 for this is much more palatable than the lowest price I saw for the OE Honda hatch lip (71102-TGG-A50) which was $367. I could add it to the OE Honda hatch grille mesh (71107-TGG-A50) which is $85.

Basically I'm trying to figure out if 71102-TGG-A50 (or the Ikon equivalent) & 71107-TGG-A50 combined into 1 piece will bolt in place of 71102-TBF-A00.
Theoretically the ikon one should fit the oem upper mesh, but since aftermarket parts are made from inferior PP materials so we don't know how long it will last. These aftermarket body parts are usually made in poor PP materials that tend to crack over short period of time. The oem one is expensive because it comes pre painted in gloss black, so you should factor in the labor for painting in gloss black if you are buying the ikon's lower sport style lip.

You ever solve this issue? Because I was considering putting a JDM lip on my SI but im wondering if the mesh bottom grill on a sports hatch is plug and play on an Si
Everything on the Sport front bumper cover is PNP on Si. The bumper cover is the same, but the only difference is the glossy black painted lower lip and the center mesh grill on the Sport. The SI comes with a merged part.

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I can confirm that the OEM Sport front lip does fit, although as stated above, you do need both parts in order to make it work on the Si. Please see attached image for reference.

One item I would note towards the Ikon lip, besides its price point, is its finish. If it is truly a matte textured finished, it would match the rear trim better. The gloss black of the sport looks great but seems out of place with the other matte components on the Si. I have been struggling to find a good side extension in gloss black, and a way to tie the rear trim in with it(on the coupe).
As this conversation pertains to a Sedan, might be mute points to the OP.

Hope the photo helps.

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I can confirm that the OEM Sport front lip does fit, although as stated above, you do need both parts in order to make it work on the Si. Please see attached image for reference.

One item I would note towards the Ikon lip, besides its price point, is its finish. If it is truly a matte textured finished, it would match the rear trim better. The gloss black of the sport looks great but seems out of place with the other matte components on the Si. I have been struggling to find a good side extension in gloss black, and a way to tie the rear trim in with it(on the coupe).
As this conversation pertains to a Sedan, might be mute points to the OP.

Hope the photo helps.

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I can confirm that the OEM Sport front lip does fit, although as stated above, you do need both parts in order to make it work on the Si. Please see attached image for reference.

One item I would note towards the Ikon lip, besides its price point, is its finish. If it is truly a matte textured finished, it would match the rear trim better. The gloss black of the sport looks great but seems out of place with the other matte components on the Si. I have been struggling to find a good side extension in gloss black, and a way to tie the rear trim in with it(on the coupe).
As this conversation pertains to a Sedan, might be mute points to the OP.

Hope the photo helps.

sport_lip.jpg
I feel you, and I'll have the lower diffuser painted gloss black to match as well even for sedan.

Since the rear diffuser is a separate piece, you can have it painted gloss black to tie up everything like the Sport. For the Coupe, I'll paint everything on the diffuser and rear garnishes in gloss black and leave those honey comb areas in textured plastic.

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@hikaru I have thought about painting the rear diffuser several times now, but the integrated honeycomb on it always causes me to pause. As if it is painted then the side sections would not match, unless everything is painted. As of now I am at either paint the diffuser's lower portion, no honeycomb. Or swap out to the Sport Coupe rear diffuser, which I kind of like better with my AWE exhaust, and making custom sides for the back, and painting those gloss black. Sedan owners don't have any of these issues.....😒
 

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@hikaru I have thought about painting the rear diffuser several times now, but the integrated honeycomb on it always causes me to pause. As if it is painted then the side sections would not match, unless everything is painted. As of now I am at either paint the diffuser's lower portion, no honeycomb. Or swap out to the Sport Coupe rear diffuser, which I kind of like better with my AWE exhaust, and making custom sides for the back, and painting those gloss black. Sedan owners don't have any of these issues.....😒
What I was saying is leave the honey comb unpainted, and only have those yellow highlighted areas, namely the entire diffuser and reflector shrouds, painted in gloss black. This should tie up everything.

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