- Jul 29, 2018
- Reaction score
- South central Canada
- Civic x 1.5L turbo CVT
I agree. A fix is coming. In Canada, Honda is offering to bump up the warranty to 6 yrs unlimited kms on top of updating the software. That gives a good incentive to keep the car.Im happy with the car but not happy with this issue. You also deserve money as your engine is defective too.
So you think the software update won't be sufficient? It's just a band aid?Honda did the Software update (Band Aid or Cheap Fix) for the 2015 Acura TLX/Pilots and still trannies failed. People were better off with there trannies replaced rather than the software update.
2018/19 models Honda updated the transmission with new internal components including clutch material and actuators
Looking at past software updates by Acura/Honda. Software updates has been followed by internal changes on the next production year or mid year refresh. Example Acura TLX/MDX, Honda Pilots/OdysseySo you think the software update won't be sufficient? It's just a band aid?
Looking at past software updates by Acura/Honda. Software updates has been followed by internal changes on the next production year or mid year refresh. Example Acura TLX/MDX, Honda Pilots/Odyssey
I have owned Honda port injection cars for 15 years prior and never had a problem with gas in the oil as I do the oil changes myself. This is my first direct injection, that is having this issue. In my experience and opinion, it is only prevalent in DI engines for me personally.I could see them changing the cold startup cycle among other things. I believe the motor runs rich while the block and cylinder walls are cold. That in itself encourages the fuel to condense and seep past the rings during the first few minutes of operation. Same thing happens in port injection; but because the injectors spray directly on the cylinder walls, a higher percentage of fuel can slip past in DI powertrains.
Leaning out the mixture a bit won't resolve the issue, but should reduce it to manageable levels for those running shorter trips in extremely cold climates. Honda may also reduce performance on some accessories like the AC/heater to allow the engine to warm up faster. They may even accelerate the Maintenance Minder to account for this type of extreme operating condition.
I want to re-emphasize that just because you suspect a higher oil level (which is a very unreliable way to measure dilution), that doesn't mean you have a fuel problem. Users running catch cans are also trapping a high amount of water/condensation from the crankcase, which is nothing new. However... if you smell a strong fuel odor on the dipstick, or when changing out your oil, your best course of action (beyond driving longer distances) is an oil analysis. Everyone will have some dilution, whether port or direct injected. The big question is whether it's leading to an increase in wear metals; and an analysis will tell you just that. It could also be a sign of a much larger issue such as a leaky injector.