Si Vs Yaris GR

[tinyman392]

I really liked the previous generation of the Yaris GRMN, 210 HP out of a supercharged I4 sending power to the front wheels. It weighed 2500 lbs. Accounting for 10% drivetrain loss 190 to the wheels for a 13.16 power to weight ratio (86 has a 16 power to weight ratio accounting for a 15% loss). The current generation gains 300 lbs but also 60HP and AWD; so it would make about 216HP to the wheels creating a power to weight ratio of 12.96, so slightly better than the previous gen with the advantage of AWD. I see this new generation as a Veloster N with a shorter wheel base and AWD If it were sold in the US it would probably be priced similar to the N.

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[FC3L15B7]

https://jalopnik.com/the-268-hp-2020-toyota-gr-yaris-is-the-wildest-rally-sp-1840924138

1.6L 3 Cylinder making 272 PS (268 horsepower) and 273 lb-ft of torque.

This thing makes more power than tuned Si's from the factory.... on a 3 cylinder set up? Insane.

268hp, or the California model ranging from 2-68hp with its 37 catalytic converters.

 

[Jes_si562]

So how the hell does Toyota keep the 86 down on power and never give people the turbo variant it's been begging for... keep the Celica dead... bring back a seemingly decent Supra, despite the "it's a BMW" backlash, but then decide to make possibly the lamest car in the lineup not-lame?

I mean... I think it's intriguing... but who asked for this? I guess the Japanese market... (shrug).

Soooo on point!

 

[tinyman392]

So how the hell does Toyota keep the 86 down on power and never give people the turbo variant it's been begging for... keep the Celica dead... bring back a seemingly decent Supra, despite the "it's a BMW" backlash, but then decide to make possibly the lamest car in the lineup not-lame?

I mean... I think it's intriguing... but who asked for this? I guess the Japanese market... (shrug).

Realistically no one asked for this, but keep in mind that Toyota uses the Yaris for rally racing. So transferring some of the R&D put into that vehicle into an outgoing Yaris might be more cost effective than creating something from scratch (Celica). The 86 might have an agreement with Subaru that no turbo model will exist (for this generation anyways, the next generation is all new stuff).

 

[A2typeR]

I have never wanted a Toyota other than an earlier generation of the dead Supra...

This car if coming to the US would be my new DD.

Not sure all the negativity and hate about such an awesome little rally car. Who knows maybe Honda will respond with a Fit equivalent and until then I will be a Toyota owner...

This checks all my boxes

+ Hatchback
+ AWD
+ Manual Transmission
+ small
+ 2 door
+ Turbo Charged
+ Japanese

there is literally nothing like this little rally car available in current production on our shores. wave:Subaru bring back the Hatch!)

I’m praying to the automotive gods that Toyota releases this in North America.

Please

 

[charleswrivers]

I have never wanted a Toyota other than an earlier generation of the dead Supra...

This car if coming to the US would be my new DD.

Not sure all the negativity and hate about such an awesome little rally car. Who knows maybe Honda will respond with a Fit equivalent and until then I will be a Toyota owner...

This checks all my boxes

+ Hatchback
+ AWD
+ Manual Transmission
+ small
+ 2 door
+ Turbo Charged
+ Japanese

there is literally nothing like this little rally car available in current production on our shores. wave:Subaru bring back the Hatch!)

I’m praying to the automotive gods that Toyota releases this in North America.

Please

If you hold your breath for it to make it to North America... well... I’m sure you’ll start breathing again after you pass out... if it ever happens at all.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...d-with-four-cylinder-turbo-engine-141147.html

I might just be overly grumpy. When the Supra went away, then they axed a decent Celica to bring in the Scion brand with the Tc seeming to me like it’s successor... but with that now out of production, I’m not sure what sport compact the Toyota brand has to offer. I’m dismissive of the Corolla... and maybe that’s unfair. I have had some fun times in Celicas in the past and I though, for their time, the 90s variant was pretty decent and cross shopped a last gen GTS vs an RSX type S. The RSX won out, but the Celica was decent.

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