Seatbelt torque specs

[Erick.FK8]

Hello all,
Just installed a harness bar for a 4-point harness in the FK8. It required to remove the bolt at the top and bottom seatbelt and then reinstall. Anyone know the correct torque spec of what Honda recommends? Thanks!

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[arpypat]

Looks like 24 ft-lbs, per Honda's service manual:

 

[Erick.FK8]

Looks like 24 ft-lbs, per Honda's service manual:

Awesome! Thanks.

 

[@thatblu_si]

Hey my seat belt just broke on my si yesterday and it isn't fixable, I'm looking for a harness bar so I can just run a harness and eliminate the seat belt. Mind if I ask you what harness bar your running?

 

[Erick.FK8]

Hey my seat belt just broke on my si yesterday and it isn't fixable, I'm looking for a harness bar so I can just run a harness and eliminate the seat belt. Mind if I ask you what harness bar your running?

i’m running this
https://balladesports.com/products/ballade-sports-civic-10th-gen-harness-bar

 

[@thatblu_si]

i’m running this
https://balladesports.com/products/ballade-sports-civic-10th-gen-harness-bar

Thanks man, I'm thinking of running the cipher harness bar, it's a little cheaper than this one. How was the install?

 

[dwag0588]

Hey my seat belt just broke on my si yesterday and it isn't fixable, I'm looking for a harness bar so I can just run a harness and eliminate the seat belt. Mind if I ask you what harness bar your running?

If you aren’t going to use a HANS device, you really should fix the seatbelt. The “for show“ harness bars like the one linked above will kill you if you ever have an accident. They are really meant for show cars. There is a reason race car drivers wear neck protection while using them.

 

[Erick.FK8]

Thanks man, I'm thinking of running the cipher harness bar, it's a little cheaper than this one. How was the install?

Install was fairly simple. I did a YouTube video on it if you want to see how it was done.

 

[Erick.FK8]

If you aren’t going to use a HANS device, you really should fix the seatbelt. The “for show“ harness bars like the one linked above will kill you if you ever have an accident. They are really meant for show cars. There is a reason race car drivers wear neck protection while using them.

Absolutely 100% agree. HANS and helmet is the way to go when tracking the car. Use the regular seatbelt when daily driving

 

[@thatblu_si]

Install was fairly simple. I did a YouTube video on it if you want to see how it was done.

Awesome thank you so much!

 

[@thatblu_si]

If you aren’t going to use a HANS device, you really should fix the seatbelt. The “for show“ harness bars like the one linked above will kill you if you ever have an accident. They are really meant for show cars. There is a reason race car drivers wear neck protection while using them.

So there really isn't any fixing my current oem belt situation. The bolt that holds the bottom of the belt to the chassis is stripped. When I stuck the bolt back in where is goes there's nothing to thread on to. I asked one of the master techs at my job and he said that there's supposed to be a nut that's welded to the inside of the pillar and it seems the welds broke off and the nuts gone now. So I really have no other choice but to get a harness. It's not really for show either because I track the car with a helmet and all. But I understand that it could be dangerous for daily driving after watching that video you sent earlier. What exactly is a HANS device if you don't mind me asking?

 

[MadMage]

If you aren’t going to use a HANS device, you really should fix the seatbelt. The “for show“ harness bars like the one linked above will kill you if you ever have an accident. They are really meant for show cars. There is a reason race car drivers wear neck protection while using them.

Are you referring to the Ballade or the Cipher? Or both?

To clarify, these are safe only with a HANS and helmet or not at all or...?

 

[@thatblu_si]

Are you referring to the Ballade or the Cipher? Or both?

To clarify, these are safe only with a HANS and helmet or not at all or...?

I would also like to know what this gentleman is asking ^

 

[dwag0588]

Are you referring to the Ballade or the Cipher? Or both?

To clarify, these are safe only with a HANS and helmet or not at all or...?

Any harness. The OEM safety systems account for some movement to occur, allowing you to hit the airbags in a collision. The harness will hold you tightly to the seat. If you come to an immediate stop and your head isn’t restrained with something like a HANS device, you break your neck. This is how Dale Earnhardt died.

More info on HANS device here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HANS_device

To be clear, its absolutely fine to use these for show purposes, but for normal street driving you should retain the use of the normal seat belts.

 

[@thatblu_si]

Any harness. The OEM safety systems account for some movement to occur, allowing you to hit the airbags in a collision. The harness will hold you tightly to the seat. If you come to an immediate stop and your head isn’t restrained with something like a HANS device, you break your neck. This is how Dale Earnhardt died.

More info on HANS device here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HANS_device

To be clear, its absolutely fine to use these for show purposes, but for normal street driving you should retain the use of the normal seat belts.

Thank you so much for clarifying this, I will be talking to my job tomorrow to see what we can do about a warranty job. Honestly I'm stuck in a shit situation lol I don't feel safe with factory restraints after the way it broke on me and if I use a harness I'll die without a HANS device ??

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