Recall 18-137 Software update with A/C Control Unit

[WhiteCastleKid]

Not wanting to take sides here, but I would tend to agree with you.
If the engine cannot run at 3000rpm in Neutral (Thinking Si), then it is going to be bad news very soon under normal driving.

I said the same, but my cousin said why chance it. He works at a shop with a dyno, and see turbos fail all the time. Remember, your dealing with an engine that when releaased, had this oil dilution issue, you dont know what else could happen. I guess to each their own precautions. A friend blew his trans on a 12 si with just street racing, he swears he wasnt pushing it.

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[WhiteCastleKid]

Running the car for 5 minutes at 3k rpm is not going to hurt anything, it’s not under any load, everything is being cooled with coolant and lubricated with oil. The turbo is not creating any boost. If this was an issue with any manufacture, engines would be blowing up left and right. Additionally, you do realize an SI sits at 2500-3000 rpm at freeway speeds, older NA engines spun higher yet and have gone hundreds of thousands of miles problem free. Please don’t spread misinformation.

I am feeling ok not doing it, I trust my cousin. It not misinformation, just a suggestive recommendation.

 

[SCOPESYS]

I said the same, but my cousin said why chance it. He works at a shop with a dyno, and see turbos fail all the time. Remember, your dealing with an engine that when releaased, had this oil dilution issue, you dont know what else could happen. I guess to each their own precautions. A friend blew his trans on a 12 si with just street racing, he swears he wasnt pushing it.

BIG DIFFERENCE between Street Racing with ??? Boost, and having the car High Idle @ 3000rpm in Neutral with zero boost.

Anyway, everyone is free to do what they want , within reason -- (at least for a few more years in the USA)

 

[Gruber]

I am feeling ok not doing it, I trust my cousin. It not misinformation, just a suggestive recommendation.

Sorry, I completely don’t trust your cousin or your understanding of whatever he says.
I don’t know any engine that can’t run at 3000 rpm for hours, not 5 minutes, lol.

A dyno test or racing is a different thing. You can simulate going uphill with great overload and maximum boost on a dyno. But 3000 rpm is not racing. In any case, a car sitting on the floor and running the engine at 3000 rpm does not engage the turbo at all.

 

[WhiteCastleKid]

Sorry, I completely don’t trust your cousin or your understanding of whatever he says.
I don’t know any engine that can’t run at 3000 rpm for hours, not 5 minutes, lol.

A dyno test or racing is a different thing. You can simulate going uphill with great overload and maximum boost on a dyno. But 3000 rpm is not racing. In any case, a car sitting on the floor and running the engine at 3000 rpm does not engage the turbo at all.

I just installed some lights today on my ride, and I asked him, my car only has a few hundred miles, not even broke in yet, that is what he mean’t.

 

[Challenger 2]

I bought my car on 12/26. Got a call a couple days later from the service guys saying there was a recall. I took it in, it took about an hour and a half. Funny thing, they changed the oil and filter. Neither myself or the service advisor could think of a good reason why. I wasn't complaining, I'll take a free oil change.

Just giving you guys the heads up, you might want to call your dealer.

My dealer wouldn't replace the oil filter. Said Honda didn't authorize it. Seems damn dumb to me, considering why they're changing the oil and all.

 

[Illiya]

The recall was brought to my attention when I brought my car in for an oil change 1/10/19. It took about two hours.

 

[civicls]

My dealer wouldn't replace the oil filter. Said Honda didn't authorize it. Seems damn dumb to me, considering why they're changing the oil and all.

Well the owners manual recomends replacing filter every other oil change. I change it every change. After all, its cheap insurance and whats the harm in doing so?

 

[REBELXSi]

Do not let them do the idle relearn, you dont need it. Your 1.5t turbo is to small and can overheat or blow a bearing. I have a family member that races, and he said going to 3k rpm’s for over 5 minutes is crazy with this engine. It is only for a conveience they do it. Your car can learn the idle with just some milage and a few start ups. I had my recall done, and they did not do the idle relearn, and it is just fine with 30 miles on it since the update. No sense in doing this to a new car. My car is not even broke in, why chance it.

Guess I won't be taking any more road trips.. or even going to work anymore in my Civic

 

[REBELXSi]

Mine is driven highway, high speed driving every day. Car seems to love it. And right now in winter season here, I love it too, no squealing unsettling noise to contend with. Absolute dream car! Not in summer when I use AC though, suffered with aweful noise when car was 5 months old, from May to Sept last year when using AC. But what got my attention here in this thread, does replacement of “climate control unit” as mentioned in recall, does it get rid of noise? Anyone dealt with abnormal AC noise that got the recall and now noise is gone? Anyone? Can anyone verify if the two issues are related?

I was being sarcastic as he said the car shouldn't be at 3,000 RPM for more than 5 minutes.
I don't think the update will fix your problem as it's supposed to deal with the oil dilution issue.

 

[WhiteCastleKid]

I was being sarcastic as he said the car shouldn't be at 3,000 RPM for more than 5 minutes.
I don't think the update will fix your problem as it's supposed to deal with the oil dilution issue.

I only had a few hundred miles on my car, as a matter of fact, the head tech said, he would have done the same if his car. Now with about 5K miles, the rings and other were seated, them maybe. I did not have it done, and my idle is perfect...WTH...why chance it...anyway...it was my choosing.

 

[REBELXSi]

Ok. But what does replacement of “climate control unit” have to do with oil dilution? Just asking, No sarcasm

My understanding is that this update is supposed to make the car warm up faster. I have read (but cannot confirm) that it has something to do with controlling the fans in a way that would allow the engine to warm up faster. The oil dilution is supposedly caused by how the engine runs when cold which is why the recall was (at least initially) targeted at colder climate states.

 

[civictrooper]

Car pushing 10k an strong did recall update don’t really see any difference in power just warming up faster

 

[REBELXSi]

My car is is housed in a garage when home. I don’t experience a cold car in the morning, even on the coldest winter days.

I just pulled this quote from auto parts warehouse online regarding climate control units “One major symptom that your unit is failing is when it automatically shuts down and then restarts even without you controlling it. If you don't have an idea about the cause of your unit's problem, then it's best that you replace it immediately. A faulty climate control unit can greatly compromise your vehicle's performance if you don't fix it right away”

I don’t understand the relation between a component that regulate temps/air movement in the cabin, and fuel/moisture in engine oil? I would expect broke, defective or worn seals if oil is compromised with fuel/moisture? What does the CCU have to do with performance?

When I said "the fans" I was referring to the fans that come on to cool your engine. Your problem has nothing to do with any of this.

 

[SCOPESYS]

. A faulty climate control unit can greatly compromise your vehicle's performance if you don't fix it right away”

I don’t understand the relation between a component that regulate temps/air movement in the cabin, and fuel/moisture in engine oil? I would expect broke, defective or worn seals if oil is compromised with fuel/moisture? What does the CCU have to do with performance?

A little more READING (and comprehension) and a little less Troll POSTING might improve your understanding.
The CCU / Performance issue has been explained NUMEROUS times in this forum..(as well as by Honda in their OD TSB).

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