PRL Motorsports 2017+ Honda Civic Type-R FK8 Charge Pipe Upgrade

[PRL Motorsports]

The cast portion from the turbo, will you guys offering a ceramic coating option on this?

We'll have more info on this in the coming weeks, stay tuned to our social media

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[02SilverSiHB]

THREE good reasons:

Stock hoses have 1 Ply of reinforcement brading, made out of rubber (which is prone to fatigue) and the 1 Ply rubber will absorb/transfer heat.
An excellent benefit to long term peace of mind.

Example of what happens to underrated/lower reinforcement tubing on FI engines:



(That video may bring a laugh or two)

you mentioned an example of underrated/lower reinforcement tubing on FI engines...but that was a coupler...not a tube like the OEM parts.

The PRL kit looks nice, but without us going above 400hp...is it really necessary? And I'm curious of lag also with those larger diameters.

 

[Hollywoo0220]

you mentioned an example of underrated/lower reinforcement tubing on FI engines...but that was a coupler...not a tube like the OEM parts.

The PRL kit looks nice, but without us going above 400hp...is it really necessary? And I'm curious of lag also with those larger diameters.

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[02SilverSiHB]

Thanks. Yeah didnt know about hks couplings being like that.

 

[SHIFTT_IX_MR]

That's A LOT of silicone LOL
Why did you choose to use some much silicone hoses in place of metal?
My evo is fully metal with the exception of the couplers. Expand or not, metal won't expand and if you're worried about heat soak ceramic coat them, or lava wrap them.

best intercooler i've seen is the Full Race intercooler and piping kit.

 

[Hollywoo0220]

That's A LOT of silicone LOL
Why did you choose to use some much silicone hoses in place of metal?
My evo is fully metal with the exception of the couplers. Expand or not, metal won't expand and if you're worried about heat soak ceramic coat them, or lava wrap them.

best intercooler i've seen is the Full Race intercooler and piping kit.

Flexibility.
The IC you mention has very large end tanks (turbulance).

 

[SHIFTT_IX_MR]

Flexibility.
The IC you mention has very large end tanks (turbulance).

That aside, why do you need that much flexibiliyt; correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t most of the restrictive oe piping metal? At the end of the day any silicone ic piping will fail from heat cycles, vs the metal ic piping. I routinely replace mine the my evo every three years. Plus it keeps things fresh in the bay.
Just my 2cents

I’d pay more for metal. And I want or would prefer your FMIC over full race because I don’t have to replace the bumper beam.

 

[SHIFTT_IX_MR]

you mentioned an example of underrated/lower reinforcement tubing on FI engines...but that was a coupler...not a tube like the OEM parts.

The PRL kit looks nice, but without us going above 400hp...is it really necessary? And I'm curious of lag also with those larger diameters.

You don’t need over 2.5 unless your hunting 750plus. I run 30psi through 2.5 all day in my evo.

 

[Hollywoo0220]

That aside, why do you need that much flexibiliyt; correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t most of the restrictive oe piping metal? At the end of the day any silicone ic piping will fail from heat cycles, vs the metal ic piping. I routinely replace mine the my evo every three years. Plus it keeps things fresh in the bay.
Just my 2cents

I’d pay more for metal. And I want or would prefer your FMIC over full race because I don’t have to replace the bumper beam.

Just look at the Charge Pipe design. You will see that the "connecting points" (which are the potential failing points) are casted ends. The hot-side is case and point there.
The slight increase in hose diameter has more to do with "relieving" pressure, than generating more power. Relieving pressure through a line is less heat friction through that line.
Aluminum piping will absorb heat / Silicone is an insulator. If by chance, someone is running 400*deg IAT1 temps - something is truly amiss with the system efficiency.

Side Note:
Stock Evo IX compression is 8.8 / Stock Civic Type-R is 9.8
Increased compression ratios increase the brake power, brake thermal efficiency, brake mean effective pressure and reduction in the specific fuel consumption. It means that higher compression ratios make it possible to improve the performance characteristics of spark ignition engines.
So, comparing what you have achieved on the Evo is not relative to the Type-R.

 

[8yourv8]

Just look at the Charge Pipe design. You will see that the "connecting points" (which are the potential failing points) are casted ends. The hot-side is case and point there.
The slight increase in hose diameter has more to do with "relieving" pressure, than generating more power. Relieving pressure through a line is less heat friction through that line.
Aluminum piping will absorb heat / Silicone is an insulator. If by chance, someone is running 400*deg IAT1 temps - something is truly amiss with the system efficiency.

Side Note:
Stock Evo IX compression is 8.8 / Stock Civic Type-R is 9.8
Increased compression ratios increase the brake power, brake thermal efficiency, brake mean effective pressure and reduction in the specific fuel consumption. It means that higher compression ratios make it possible to improve the performance characteristics of spark ignition engines.
So, comparing what you have achieved on the Evo is not relative to the Type-R.

I have to agree with the Evo guy when it comes to piping. I had a Evo 9 for 7 years and raced the hell out if it and i was running a 4 inch intercooler and hard piping from ETS with a 6262 turbo that ran 30 psi on the street.I love PRL products but i would prefer hard piping over any silicon tubing. To me it just looks tacky and i would prefer hard piping.

 

[jasonjm]

I have to agree with the Evo guy when it comes to piping. I had a Evo 9 for 7 years and raced the hell out if it and i was running a 4 inch intercooler and hard piping from ETS with a 6262 turbo that ran 30 psi on the street.I love PRL products but i would prefer hard piping over any silicon tubing. To me it just looks tacky and i would prefer hard piping.

I agree, which is why I’ll just get someone to custom make hard pipes for me soon.

 

[CincyTypeR]

I agree, which is why I’ll just get someone to custom make hard pipes for me soon.

There are options for hard pipes. HKS and aFe come to mind.

 

[jasonjm]

There are options for hard pipes. HKS and aFe come to mind.

I am running a Mishi cooler now. Stock or stock replacements dont fit.

 

[koochieman]

interested to see numbers! PRL makes great products so not even tripping.

 

[PRL Motorsports]

Good Morning Type R community, to clarify, we are using silicone because hard (metal) charge piping retains more heat as to where (and this has been proven many times over) silicone is better at heat dissipation and helps us create a better fitment for this set up. We are excited for you guys to see our new charge pipe kit for the FK8!

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