1.5T Phearable for CVT

[disgraced.fk8]

Alright guys, I know a few others here pulled the trigger on the Phearable 1.5T tune for the non-si. I have the CVT, and tuning info tends to be buried in threads so hopefully this can stay a bit more visible to anyone looking for info on the Phearable tune for the CVT. Just looking to share my initial experience, update every so often once I log some more miles, and hopefully others can chime in with their experience!

First off, I only ran the Ktuner maps for comparison, I was going to get TSP but then Phearable released the news that the 1.5T tunes were coming so I held off. I ran ktuner starter 18 with a few different setups, then the 21 dual target, then just the Ktuner "Stage 2". The Stage 2 tune really pulled compared to the starter tunes, but boy was I in for a surprise once I grabbed the Phearable tune.

Loaded the Phearable tune and definitely noticed right away it was smoother. Not as jumpy on the pedal by any means. I am running map 2 most of the time - I ran map 3 and didn't see 24psi. I saw 22 and change on map 2 which is supposed to be ~20psi, and the same 22 and change on map 3. It's been cold and the air has been dense so I must have been making target torque on map 3 but I'm not sure why I hit peak boost of 22+ psi. FWIW I am Mishi intake, Afe catted DP, and Greddy SP.

Regardless of that, the tune RIPS. I have finally, after 40k miles and a year with the car, figured out the paddle shifting to where it's pretty quick and smooth and let me tell you.... if you can get this right with the tune the car screams! You can just sit right at the bottom of the power band and then stomp on it and it really throws you back sometimes.

Sans paddles it still scoots really hard for sure, just more fun with the paddles lol. If you are in Sport it generally sits around 2500-3000 rpm and putting your foot into the floor will put you back in your seat.

I don't have any data as far as 0-60, quarter mile, etc unfortunately and as of right now I don't really plan to, this is just my fun fast daily, I don't want to beat her into the ground lol.

Anyone else grab the Phearable tune for the CVT? What did you think?

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[Deleted member 26142]

That's awesome is the throttle dampening adjustable on this tune? also are you running any bolt ons? I think I may pull the trigger on this map have been running the TSP stage 1 map for over a year

 

[disgraced.fk8]

That's awesome is the throttle dampening adjustable on this tune? also are you running any bolt ons? I think I may pull the trigger on this map have been running the TSP stage 1 map for over a year

Sorry accidentally hit enter and posted prematurely lol! I added my bolt ons above, Mishi intake Afe catted DP and Greddy SP catback, stock front pipe.

I talked to someone with an Si the other day when we were buying a used Ktuner and he said the Phearable is better than the TSP. I would go for it!

 

[Beansley]

Alright guys, I know a few others here pulled the trigger on the Phearable 1.5T tune for the non-si. I have the CVT, and tuning info tends to be buried in threads so hopefully this can stay a bit more visible to anyone looking for info on the Phearable tune for the CVT. Just looking to share my initial experience, update every so often once I log some more miles, and hopefully others can chime in with their experience!

First off, I only ran the Ktuner maps for comparison, I was going to get TSP but then Phearable released the news that the 1.5T tunes were coming so I held off. I ran ktuner starter 18 with a few different setups, then the 21 dual target, then just the Ktuner "Stage 2". The Stage 2 tune really pulled compared to the starter tunes, but boy was I in for a surprise once I grabbed the Phearable tune.

Loaded the Phearable tune and definitely noticed right away it was smoother. Not as jumpy on the pedal by any means. I am running map 2 most of the time - I ran map 3 and didn't see 24psi. I saw 22 and change on map 2 which is supposed to be ~20psi, and the same 22 and change on map 3. It's been cold and the air has been dense so I must have been making target torque on map 3 but I'm not sure why I hit peak boost of 22+ psi. FWIW I am Mishi intake, Afe catted DP, and Greddy SP.

Regardless of that, the tune RIPS. I have finally, after 40k miles and a year with the car, figured out the paddle shifting to where it's pretty quick and smooth and let me tell you.... if you can get this right with the tune the car screams! You can just sit right at the bottom of the power band and then stomp on it and it really throws you back sometimes.

Sans paddles it still scoots really hard for sure, just more fun with the paddles lol. If you are in Sport it generally sits around 2500-3000 rpm and putting your foot into the floor will put you back in your seat.

I don't have any data as far as 0-60, quarter mile, etc unfortunately and as of right now I don't really plan to, this is just my fun fast daily, I don't want to beat her into the ground lol.

Anyone else grab the Phearable tune for the CVT? What did you think?

Thanks for the review! I think I'll be making the switch, the TSP tune has felt boring to me lately and I had switched back to the base 21 tune for a bit because I find the bottom end snappiness more fun. Sounds like this should be a good middle ground between the two!

 

[gtman]

To anybody switching to the Phearable tune who has posted in the tuning survey...

Make sure you make a new post there so I can add that info to the stats. I know John Vega would appreciate it.

Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 26142]

Sorry accidentally hit enter and posted prematurely lol! I added my bolt ons above, Mishi intake Afe catted DP and Greddy SP catback, stock front pipe.

I talked to someone with an Si the other day when we were buying a used Ktuner and he said the Phearable is better than the TSP. I would go for it!

It's all good lol, Well awesome review I like what I'm seeing in regards to smooth power delivery that's probably the only gripe I have with the TSP tune just feels too aggressive at times when its not need lol. But I will defently jump to this for the mean time until TSP releases the quick adjusts for throttle adjustment and the 27 Won RACE MAF calibration

 

[disgraced.fk8]

To anybody switching to the Phearable tune who has posted in the tuning survey...

Make sure you make a new post there so I can add that info to the stats. I know John Vega would appreciate it.

Thanks.

You know, I was going to put something funny about you inevitably replying here about the tuning survey, I guess I should have

 

[gtman]

Well, we have thousands of tuned owners here but only a few hundred have done surveys, so there's that. So, I figure a friendly reminder can't hurt.

Especially considering the guy who created the Phearable tune has asked all his users to post a survey:

 

[Myx]

Regardless of that, the tune RIPS. I have finally, after 40k miles and a year with the car, You can just sit right at the bottom of the power band and then stomp on it and it really throws you back sometimes.

Thanks for the review. Any more info on this 'paddle shifting' technique you speak of?

 

[Deleted member 26142]

Thanks for the review. Any more info on this 'paddle shifting' technique you speak of?

I assume he's talking about the paddles on the steering wheel

 

[Beansley]

It's all good lol, Well awesome review I like what I'm seeing in regards to smooth power delivery that's probably the only gripe I have with the TSP tune just feels too aggressive at times when its not need lol. But I will defently jump to this for the mean time until TSP releases the quick adjusts for throttle adjustment and the 27 Won RACE MAF calibration

I don't think it's a TSP thing, it's a Ktuner thing so I would think once quick adjustments are available they should be available for this? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Crowe]

I don't think it's a TSP thing, it's a Ktuner thing so I would think once quick adjustments are available they should be available for this? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

AFAIK that is correct, although those quick adjustments may only be for the Si. I can't quite remember.

 

[Deleted member 26142]

I don't think it's a TSP thing, it's a Ktuner thing so I would think once quick adjustments are available they should be available for this? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah at the moment looks like only the Si TSP tune has the quick adjustments

 

[disgraced.fk8]

I assume he's talking about the paddles on the steering wheel

If you've read myx's posts/threads, you would know why he's asking lol

Thanks for the review. Any more info on this 'paddle shifting' technique you speak of?

So I'll start this with a bit of background - I just got into cars last year when I purchased my current civic. I always loved cars since the day I saw F&F Tokyo Drift. I also absolutely loved the CTR when it came out, but it was impractical for me to buy. I drive a bajillion miles a day for my commute, such that in 13 months of ownership I've racked up over 40k miles. Anyways, I got my sport touring CVT, said I'd only put the Type R wing on, and be done with it. Welllllll.... Yeah we all know how that goes. Now I'm way down the rabbit hole.

I haven't had the chance to learn to drive manual yet, but I've driven more than a few times in parking lots and neighborhoods. I give the above info because I would like to compare this to learning to drive manual, I think anyways. Basically, I have found the right timing to let off the gas, paddle shift, and quickly but very smoothly easy back into it and hammer down to scoot on without any lurches or weird grabs from the CVT! I don't have it down 100%, as I still get them sometimes if I'm really pushing it. It's different from tune to tune as well obviously depending on the throttle settings, but it's relatively the same area.

I think the best way to describe it is juust before you let off the gas completely is when you want to shift. If you let all the way off, it backs off and you kind of idle (what is this actually called when you're driving and you let off the gas, is there a name for it??) which doesn't shift as smoothly. Then you definitely don't want to stomp on it. I would say maybe half a second of steady slow increase in pressure then almost 1sec, maybe at 1sec, you can stomp on it and it just flies. Also, shifting out of first is best between 2500 and 3500 rpms, so this is really not great for digs in my experience. But if you can be driving in sport, downshift to S^3 doing around 40, you can pretty much hammer down the pedal to about 5200 - 5300 and then do the shifting I mentioned where you're not 100% off the gas when you press the button. It's really just timing the shift I guess, but it took me way too long I feel like to find the optimal shifting. I also try not to beat on the car, especially in sport with the paddles, and then definitely given the mileage I put on and plan to put on, so I don't go out and do any real dedicated testing driving the crap out of the car.

What would you say you've noticed in terms of the above information? This goes for anyone else too, I'm curious how people time their shifts and such with the CVT.

 

[Myx]

If you've read myx's posts/threads, you would know why he's asking lol



So I'll start this with a bit of background - I just got into cars last year when I purchased my current civic. I always loved cars since the day I saw F&F Tokyo Drift. I also absolutely loved the CTR when it came out, but it was impractical for me to buy. I drive a bajillion miles a day for my commute, such that in 13 months of ownership I've racked up over 40k miles. Anyways, I got my sport touring CVT, said I'd only put the Type R wing on, and be done with it. Welllllll.... Yeah we all know how that goes. Now I'm way down the rabbit hole.

I haven't had the chance to learn to drive manual yet, but I've driven more than a few times in parking lots and neighborhoods. I give the above info because I would like to compare this to learning to drive manual, I think anyways. Basically, I have found the right timing to let off the gas, paddle shift, and quickly but very smoothly easy back into it and hammer down to scoot on without any lurches or weird grabs from the CVT! I don't have it down 100%, as I still get them sometimes if I'm really pushing it. It's different from tune to tune as well obviously depending on the throttle settings, but it's relatively the same area.

I think the best way to describe it is juust before you let off the gas completely is when you want to shift. If you let all the way off, it backs off and you kind of idle (what is this actually called when you're driving and you let off the gas, is there a name for it??) which doesn't shift as smoothly. Then you definitely don't want to stomp on it. I would say maybe half a second of steady slow increase in pressure then almost 1sec, maybe at 1sec, you can stomp on it and it just flies. Also, shifting out of first is best between 2500 and 3500 rpms, so this is really not great for digs in my experience. But if you can be driving in sport, downshift to S^3 doing around 40, you can pretty much hammer down the pedal to about 5200 - 5300 and then do the shifting I mentioned where you're not 100% off the gas when you press the button. It's really just timing the shift I guess, but it took me way too long I feel like to find the optimal shifting. I also try not to beat on the car, especially in sport with the paddles, and then definitely given the mileage I put on and plan to put on, so I don't go out and do any real dedicated testing driving the crap out of the car.

What would you say you've noticed in terms of the above information? This goes for anyone else too, I'm curious how people time their shifts and such with the CVT.

This is VERY useful information and very descriptive. Thank you for this post. Pressing the gas pedal all the way down to the floor at first never seems to be the fastest way to accelerate. It goes against all we've learned from driving a a 'normal' automatic. That first initial push of the gas pedal is the difference from the acceleration seeming like it is delayed to taking off like a bat out of hell. The timing has to be just right and you only know it once you've have experienced it. The same applies with taking off from a dead stop.

Again, thanks for trying to explain it. I find it difficult too speak on. Someone has to have that 'aha' moment when they feel it at work.

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