Oil Dilution TSB

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here's how I deal with dilution and rising oil levels:

1.) doubled the grade to a 0/40
2.) siphon off (done thru the dipstick hole) one quart when it rises by .5 qt. then add .5qt fresh.

here at 46 degrees north I'll do this 2-3 times per OCI during the 6 cold months..once you have the equipment the process takes 10min.

all good.





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here's how I deal with dilution and rising oil levels:

1.) doubled the grade to a 0/40
2.) siphon off (done thru the dipstick hole) one quart when it rises by .5 qt. then add .5qt fresh.

here at 46 degrees north I'll do this 2-3 times per OCI during the 6 cold months..once you have the equipment the process takes 10min.

all good.
 

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here's how I deal with dilution and rising oil levels:

1.) doubled the grade to a 0/40
2.) siphon off (done thru the dipstick hole) one quart when it rises by .5 qt. then add .5qt fresh.

here at 46 degrees north I'll do this 2-3 times per OCI during the 6 cold months..once you have the equipment the process takes 10min.

all good.
Interesting. How long is your OCI? How many times during your OCI do you complete this procedure? What do you use to siphon?
 

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I believe the fuel dilution was by design for the turbo versions. The fuel acts as a solvent and keeps the intercooler and other parts clean and 'sludge free'. I have no issue with it since there are no excessive wear particles in my oil analysis.
 

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I believe the fuel dilution was by design for the turbo versions. The fuel acts as a solvent and keeps the intercooler and other parts clean and 'sludge free'. I have no issue with it since there are no excessive wear particles in my oil analysis.
Oils are full of detergents these days. Nobody is designing cars to use gasoline to clean things.

I completely agree with your last sentence tho. My analysis are coming back and proving my AMSOIL 0w20 is holding up just fine with 10,000mi changes. I actually have yet to see any of the oil analysis reports to show dangerous levels of viscosity with any oil. The Honda oil is definitely showing the lowest viscosity, but it's still doing it's job.
 
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here's how I deal with dilution and rising oil levels:

1.) doubled the grade to a 0/40
2.) siphon off (done thru the dipstick hole) one quart when it rises by .5 qt. then add .5qt fresh.

here at 46 degrees north I'll do this 2-3 times per OCI during the 6 cold months..once you have the equipment the process takes 10min.

all good.
What is higher viscosity oil helping with this issue?
Does it evaporate less or just because can take dilution and still be closer to speck viscosity vise?
 

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What is higher viscosity oil helping with this issue?
Does it evaporate less or just because can take dilution and still be closer to speck viscosity vise?
I'd take anything Dblshock says with a grain of salt. This guy was pouring diesel oil additives in his gas tank. He has absolutely no data to back up anything he says either. He got laughed out of the Bobtheoilguy forums and landed here.

Look for the thread "upgraded to 5w30" if you want to see all the nonsense he's done/says.
 
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Here is the most salient point out of that article/click above..
According to the plaintiffs, Honda has concealed its knowledge the Earth Dreams engines are prone to defects that cause fuel to enter the engine oil, damaging the bearings and engines permanently. Decreased oil viscosity and premature wear allegedly cause the CR-V SUVs and Civic cars to stall and fail while driving.

What I found interesting is if you feel like it is stalling, is it time to change oil?
 

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No. The engine goes in limp mode if the oil reaches a certain (very high) level, it is designed to do so to avoid any damage.
 

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Here is the most salient point out of that article/click above..
According to the plaintiffs, Honda has concealed its knowledge the Earth Dreams engines are prone to defects that cause fuel to enter the engine oil, damaging the bearings and engines permanently. Decreased oil viscosity and premature wear allegedly cause the CR-V SUVs and Civic cars to stall and fail while driving.

What I found interesting is if you feel like it is stalling, is it time to change oil?
You should look at the results from Blackstone oil analysis from forum members. Search if interested
 

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No. The engine goes in limp mode if the oil reaches a certain (very high) level, it is designed to do so to avoid any damage.
I'd be interested to hear your take on this, seeing you're from China where most of these complaints are coming from.

Looking at the oil analysis we're collecting, I'm not seeing this imminent catastrophic failure everybody thinks the fuel in the oil is causing. While the Honda oil is the lowest quality oil in the analysis, I'm not seeing any elevated wear metals and the viscosity shows the oil is still performing when changed (never over MM).
 

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I'd be interested to hear your take on this, seeing you're from China where most of these complaints are coming from.

Looking at the oil analysis we're collecting, I'm not seeing this imminent catastrophic failure everybody thinks the fuel in the oil is causing. While the Honda oil is the lowest quality oil in the analysis, I'm not seeing any elevated wear metals and the viscosity shows the oil is still performing when changed (never over MM).
I live in the south, where there is no real winter, so I didn't really have anything wrong on my car, except a maximum of 3mm more oil on the dipstick. so I am just glad I got a free ECU update and 2 oil changes anyway.
In China the MM is fixed at 5000 km, so we further reduce the risk of damages.
 
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I live in the south, where there is no real winter, so I didn't really have anything wrong on my car, except a maximum of 3mm more oil on the dipstick. so I am just glad I got a free ECU update and 2 oil changes anyway.
In China the MM is fixed at 5000 km, so we further reduce the risk of damages.
Might have been mentioned in this thread and I missed it. What is the recommended oil in Asia, or China, more specifically?
 

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Might have been mentioned in this thread and I missed it. What is the recommended oil in Asia, or China, more specifically?
Same as North America, 0w20 but we have to change it every 5000km.
 

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