1.5T No Power gains after PRL catless dp/fp?

[ALIAFZAL95]

Hey guys,

I have a 2019 civic non si CVT. I'm currently running the TSP stage 1 tune and am happy with it. However, today I installed the Prl catless dp/fp combo and felt no power gains? In fact I felt the car seemed a bit more sluggish. I also have the prl cobra with race maf and a rev 9 intercooler. Is it possible I felt no power gains because I didnt give the ecu enough time to adjust to the dp/fp? Is there such a thing? I usually go on the same stretch of road to to test my vehicle out and I was previously hitting 200km/h before i had to break and today with the dp fp i only achieved 198. ( Same ambient temps). Im still new to all of this ( Just have 4000kms on the car so apologies for the Novice questions. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
-Ali

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[CivicXander]

Your car/ecu don't know what physical mods you've done. You need a tune to take advantage of the mods like that.

 

[omar0123]

As bin said in this forum performance parts will no nothing why because the ecu will adjust and give you no power , now you need a flashpro or a ktuner to unleash the benefit of those mods

 

[ALIAFZAL95]

I'm using K tuner V2, that is how I'm running tsp stage 1 tune. Do you guys mean I need a custom tune?

 

[omar0123]

Ktuner comes with some caned tunes , it should take advantage of the mods , if your not feeling any power something is not right, try going to a dyno see what gains you have compared to the oem hp

 

[Joe1986]

As bin said in this forum performance parts will no nothing why because the ecu will adjust and give you no power , now you need a flashpro or a ktuner to unleash the benefit of those mods

The op clearly states he's running tsp tune so Obviously he had a ktuner

 

[Joe1986]

Hey guys,

I have a 2019 civic non si CVT. I'm currently running the TSP stage 1 tune and am happy with it. However, today I installed the Prl catless dp/fp combo and felt no power gains? In fact I felt the car seemed a bit more sluggish. I also have the prl cobra with race maf and a rev 9 intercooler. Is it possible I felt no power gains because I didnt give the ecu enough time to adjust to the dp/fp? Is there such a thing? I usually go on the same stretch of road to to test my vehicle out and I was previously hitting 200km/h before i had to break and today with the dp fp i only achieved 198. ( Same ambient temps). Im still new to all of this ( Just have 4000kms on the car so apologies for the Novice questions. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
-Ali

Here is your problem, alot of guys would say things like this oh man I Install a downpipe and front pipe combo and a cai running my ktuner 21psi and omg my car is now a super car ..when in reality the power they gain is next to nothing its barely there these guys overly exaggerate beyond the max...so u seeing this your expecting a massive improvement in performance but in reality it's just barely there

 

[ALIAFZAL95]

Here is your problem, alot of guys would say things like this oh man I Install a downpipe and front pipe combo and a cai running my ktuner 21psi and omg my car is now a super car ..when in reality the power they gain is next to nothing its barely there these guys overly exaggerate beyond the max...so u seeing this your expecting a massive improvement in performance but in reality it's just barely there

Hey buddy,
So I wasnt expecting anything major from the dp/fp but I've heard good things about the prl catless dp fp and on their website they do state you pick up some hp and torque so was expecting a little more power than the factory exhaust.

 

[AdamD19DFK8]

You need to (and can now thanks to the downpipe) advance ignition timing for it to make it's difference. You can't run as much timing with a more restrictive stock cat. There should be a basemap to account for this. Such as dp/ic, or just downpipe or high flow cat.

It will also help your turbo spool faster

 

[ALIAFZAL95]

You need to (and can now thanks to the downpipe) advance ignition timing for it to make it's difference. You can't run as much timing with a more restrictive stock cat. There should be a basemap to account for this. Such as dp/ic, or just downpipe or high flow cat.

It will also help your turbo spool faster

Best to opt for a custom map then?

 

[Joe1986]

Hey buddy,
So I wasnt expecting anything major from the dp/fp but I've heard good things about the prl catless dp fp and on their website they do state you pick up some hp and torque so was expecting a little more power than the factory exhaust.

Do u really think your gonna feel a 10hp and 15tq?

 

[ALIAFZAL95]

Do u really think your gonna feel a 10hp and 15tq?

Hahahaha evidently not!!

 

[Joe1986]

Hahahaha evidently not!!

There u go I'm not trying to be dick but just like me , base upon post here I've seen my expectations were too high so I was disappointed with my power gains too

 

[AdamD19DFK8]

No, it's not necessary. Not sure of how the k-tuner base maps are, but I'm sure they have a map or modification for downpipes. They'll modify the tables to get the most out of it. I know with hondata they bump up the ignition advance for power, and change the cam angles to aid in spool.

A custom tune will def give you more than a basemap that's no doubt. You just don't need to pay the ~$500 to take advantage of the dp and fp and see a little boost in performance.

 

[Oddwayne]

Here is your problem, alot of guys would say things like this oh man I Install a downpipe and front pipe combo and a cai running my ktuner 21psi and omg my car is now a super car ..when in reality the power they gain is next to nothing its barely there these guys overly exaggerate beyond the max...so u seeing this your expecting a massive improvement in performance but in reality it's just barely there

You’re spot on. I laugh when I see people say, I installed my fmic, and boy does it feel like a whole new car.... lol.

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