New HardRace Front Lower Camber Adjusters

[Eugene_Fk8]

one more thing as reminder, if you install the headrace low ball joint kit, please make sure you got or near an alignment shop. I install in my friend's shop and it came out to have a huge toe out. I have to drive with the tire screaming sound over 10 miles to a track alignment shop.

Sponsored

 

[Ludacrish05]

one more thing as reminder, if you install the headrace low ball joint kit, please make sure you got or near an alignment shop. I install in my friend's shop and it came out to have a huge toe out. I have to drive with the tire screaming sound over 10 miles to a track alignment shop.

Good call man because I just installed setting C today and the toe is crazyyyyyyy off so I’m going to Jack the car up and just eye it to a decent toe and drive to the shop.

I’m curious to know how much setting C with swifts are but I’m flush on a +22 offset wheel.

 

[Ludacrish05]

This was my before lowered on just swift springs

 

[elmerzasty]

one more thing as reminder, if you install the headrace low ball joint kit, please make sure you got or near an alignment shop. I install in my friend's shop and it came out to have a huge toe out. I have to drive with the tire screaming sound over 10 miles to a track alignment shop.

Yep, the toe out is insane, it’s like 10 mm and the car becomes almost undriveable w/o aligning it, to the point I thought that something was loose in the suspesion or drivetrain.

So for anyone installing these themselves, you also absolutely must adjust the toe „by eye” to bring it close to 0 before driving to an alignment shop.

 

[HomieGohan]

Following.

Would you guys recommend these ball joint adjustments over top hats and getting coilovers?

 

[elmerzasty]

Following.

Would you guys recommend these ball joint adjustments over top hats and getting coilovers?

Well that really depends if you want/need to run coilovers or not. For the stock strut the balljoints are the way to go IMO.

However adjusting camber at the top is generally better because it leaves the rest of the suspension geometry mostly unaltered. Plus some tophats will allow to adjust caster as well.

 

[Dave B]

Given that the new ball joints are pushed outwards and the tie rods are behind the steering axis, it makes sense that the car will toe out big time when installing the ball joints. For other cars that I have had to make guestimates on, I have found one full turn on a tie rod results in about 1/4 inch change in toe or about 6 mm. Any idea if this is about the change needed in the tie rods before getting a real alignment i.e. one full turn of lengthening the tie rods on each side?

 

[Ludacrish05]

Following.

Would you guys recommend these ball joint adjustments over top hats and getting coilovers?

This is good enough without a top hat endless you’re trying to go -5 degrees then you’d need a combo of those top hat and HardRace

 

[Eugene_Fk8]

Given that the new ball joints are pushed outwards and the tie rods are behind the steering axis, it makes sense that the car will toe out big time when installing the ball joints. For other cars that I have had to make guestimates on, I have found one full turn on a tie rod results in about 1/4 inch change in toe or about 6 mm. Any idea if this is about the change needed in the tie rods before getting a real alignment i.e. one full turn of lengthening the tie rods on each side?

JUST EYE ALIGN IT, no need to be super accurate since you will need to do the actual alignment at an alignment shop. All you want is to make sure you can still drive to alignment after the install.

 

[Dave B]

JUST EYE ALIGN IT, no need to be super accurate since you will need to do the actual alignment at an alignment shop. All you want is to make sure you can still drive to alignment after the install.

Don't think I could eyeball 1/2" of toe out and not happy about driving to the closest good shop near me for alignment with that much toe out, especially at highway speeds.

 

[Code Monkey]

-3.5 camber on stock suspension, super happy.

 

[ApexEight]

-3.5 camber on stock suspension, super happy.

Very nice. Is that with the ball joints in "Position C"? Strut tower pins pulled as well? Seeing a lot of track time? If so, what's your wheel and tire setup?

 

[davemarco]

How has the increase in camber changed your steering feel? I'd imagine that the smaller contact patch would be the steering feel lighter rather than heavier, but I'm curious if that's the case.

 

[sunnyB]

How has the increase in camber changed your steering feel? I'd imagine that the smaller contact patch would be the steering feel lighter rather than heavier, but I'm curious if that's the case.

I have -3 deg. Steering feel is not noticeably different for daily driving.

For track driving, you will most def feel a significant feel in cornerning.

 

[davemarco]

I have -3 deg. Steering feel is not noticeably different for daily driving.

For track driving, you will most def feel a significant feel in cornerning.

Has your inner tire wear increased substantially?

Sponsored