New HardRace Front Lower Camber Adjusters

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Happen to see this new product listed on Kamispeed, does this mean we can add negative camber while retain factory suspension setup? If so I wonder how much negative camber can be achieved with this.. :)

https://www.kamispeed.com/Hardrace-Front-Lower-Camber-Civic-Type-R-FK8-p/hrd.q0094.htm



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I wonder how much more negative camber you can get with them?

Haven’t taken the front apart yet. How tough would install be?
 

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I was wondering when manufactures would start coming out with some camber adjustability options for the front. Desperately need this
 
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Agree, definitely keeping an eye out for this..

The factory suspension setup is so perfect I would not want to change anything on it other then adding more negative camber on the front for trackdays :)
 

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I'm interested in these as well. I also saw Kamispeed posted about some OEM compatible camber plates coming out of Tokyo Auto Salon. I'm eagerly awaiting more details on that.

Meanwhite here is some more info on the Hardrace bushings. http://www.hardrace.com/Product_detail.asp?id=4322

Still no numbers on camber adjust ability? Hopefully whoever buys these can give us some measurements :)
 
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I purchased these last week on the @Kami Speed website, will keep you guys updated when I receive/install them.

Bought these because it said the camber is adjustable.
Please keep us posted. Thanks! :)

Thanks for that, just worried camber plates are noisy and also require aftermarket springs hence I'm not interested in them ;)
 

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Thanks for that, just worried camber plates are noisy and also require aftermarket springs hence I'm not interested in them ;)
I've never used camber plates on a car before. How are they noisy?

Also, can anyone explain how the suspension geometry is modified with these bushings? There's not much information on the HardRace website. Also, what would the effect be if these ball joints and camber plates were used?

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So I've done some research and I've found this resource very helpful: https://world.honda.com/tech/auto/dual-axis-strut-suspension/

And for anyone new to thinking about suspension geometry like me, these videos are really insightful.



Seems like the scrub radius will be affected by modification to the lower ball joint, and your scrub radius is a huge factor in the reduction of torque steer.
 

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IN FOR DETAILS !!

in all seriousness i am very interested... could def use some better front camber
 

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I just got an email back from HardRace on measurements for camber adjustments.

The Q0094 are a brand new item that will be available likely starting in March, pricing for these will be $235.00 for the set. These will have two fixed camber settings, one offering -1 degrees and one set at -2 degrees.
 

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Seems like the scrub radius will be affected by modification to the lower ball joint, and your scrub radius is a huge factor in the reduction of torque steer.
The sad part is my scrub radius is already affected by putting lower offset wheels :rofl:

My 27WON rear motor mount is useless now, here’s hoping my shop in Austin can fix this for me and adjusting the front camber plates when installing that ball joint.
 

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This is just a general question for everybody: Is there some type of calculator available for dual-axis strut suspension setups? It would be interesting to plug in adjustment numbers to see how it affects the geometry.
 

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