Kaptain75329
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Yep, I'm with you on this one. The Si being targeted to enthusiasts, this could very well be a genuine consideration for the company. On the other hand, maybe capping the performance might make sense: with the Type-R on the horizon, Honda might be looking to snag dollars that would otherwise wind up in the aftermarket -- and they get to do it in a way that wouldn't kill Si sales numbers because it would still be improved over the last gen car. (Sure, some purists might pass, but I think a strong case could be made inside Honda's corporate meeting rooms that sales are likely to increase either way given the Civic's wider appeal over the previous version.)This option, a H.O. 1.5T, would also totally take off the table any potential for modding, like the K series has enjoyed.
I don't agree. A Limited Slip Differential (LSD) isn't exclusively tied to engine type or transmission. I suspect Honda will include it in the Si regardless of engine, given the history with the car's drivetrain packaging. If there's a reason LSD cannot be on an Si with the 1.5t VTEC, I haven't seen one. (I suppose it's possible, but LSD missing on the Si on this generation of the Civic would go against Honda's stated vision for the car on this product cycle.)Which brings me to another thing....this MT for the 1.5T...if it doesn't (which I am sure it doesn't) have LSD, then that can also add in two more possibilities:
-if the Si gets 1.5T it ain't getting LSD this time around!
or
-This drivetrain is NOT for the SI, as Honda *hopefully* intends to maintain the LSD feature of the Si...no matter what engine they SURPRISE us with.
This is a really excellent point -- it's one that didn't occur to me, and I don't think this possibility would be at all crazy. It makes sense that Honda might consider tuning this engine to better compete with the competition I named in my previous post. There's certainly more headroom over the 1.5t to do it. And with the Civic going upmarket, I could see this actually happening. For my part, I'd prefer the 1.5t to get great performance without killing my wallet at the pump, but no way in hell I say no to an Si built with those specs.Also, as the K series may be "aging", there is still plenty left in it. Honda has just revised it for the Civic, and they revised it for the Accord. No reason why they couldn't go full-on with a full VTEC EarthDreams K24 variant that gets 220-230HP like they have done with K variants in the past.
Again, too soon to tell on all this, but I'm really looking forward to seeing what Honda does with the Si as I'm quite interested in picking one up myself.
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