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Like I said. Sales tactic. You won’t be seeing that 20.3 bone stock.
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Ktuner starter dual map tune makes the car feel so good. Honestly, should have came that way from the factory. Considering they lied a bunch.
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Yeah, considering I'm running only a pound or so above the Honda given boost spec, it is immensely quicker when the car is made to reach 21 consistently vice lolly gagging around 16-17.
I think I'm going to make another map that ramps past 21 after 4000 RPM towards 23-24. Running in below-freezing temps... the torque hit from 21 is substantial on my still-stock clutch. I bet the power equals or exceeds the 23 map in summer temps.
I think I'm going to make another map that ramps past 21 after 4000 RPM towards 23-24. Running in below-freezing temps... the torque hit from 21 is substantial on my still-stock clutch. I bet the power equals or exceeds the 23 map in summer temps.
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JUST DRIVE YOUR CAR STOCK LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN!!
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No thank you.
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you realize the car is turbo charged so it is not really an atypical stock vehicle. you just enjoy extremism.
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Seems like you're in the wrong forum, friend. Get outta here with that garbage.
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WokeNotaSleep, It's obvious that between your "Hangook" comment on another thread you made... your resurrecting a 2 month old thread to say the Civic Type R getting 3rd place on R&T is some frivolous affair and that your LX is all anyone should want and that your comments on a SI forum about boost pressure... you're a troll who's just wandering around and trying to poke people with a stick. I'll not feed you any longer. Ignored.
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Boost extremist!!!! That is what I'll be if I ever get a Ktuner. lol
At least in my current low boost state (16-17 psi) it still chirps the tires in 3rd.
At least in my current low boost state (16-17 psi) it still chirps the tires in 3rd.
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Seems about the same to me , 0F here .
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You are more that likely being blown off. However, as a consumer you have a number of options to even the playing ground.
Firstly, remove all mods associated with the engine and or powertrain before going to the dealer.
Secondly, ask yourself if you are just seeing low boost or if you are actually feeling low boost... "Loss of power" is certainly a reason to bring the vehicle in.
Third, document everything! Play nice and bring the car in for service. Honda dealers are very fearful of their service surveys and will try to a number of tactics to try and prevent you from getting one in the event they cannot satisfy your issue. This may produce leverage.
Fourth... Write a letter to Honda Corporate in regards to your concern and the way you have been treated. Be sure the letter is well crafted and focuses on your vehicle as opposed to pointing fingers.
This of course is just my opinion...
Firstly, remove all mods associated with the engine and or powertrain before going to the dealer.
Secondly, ask yourself if you are just seeing low boost or if you are actually feeling low boost... "Loss of power" is certainly a reason to bring the vehicle in.
Third, document everything! Play nice and bring the car in for service. Honda dealers are very fearful of their service surveys and will try to a number of tactics to try and prevent you from getting one in the event they cannot satisfy your issue. This may produce leverage.
Fourth... Write a letter to Honda Corporate in regards to your concern and the way you have been treated. Be sure the letter is well crafted and focuses on your vehicle as opposed to pointing fingers.
This of course is just my opinion...
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That could be it. At -5°F I was only getting 12psi. Today we finally got above freezing and it’s back up to 17psi. I expect to hit 19-20 again when this brutal winter is over.
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I've never seen a factory turbo tune pull so much boost from IAT's. I always fill with 93 and temps have been 5-25F. I see others with factory tunes are getting low boost too, but I definitely feel a loss of power from when the car was new. Even when I've been driving for over 30 minutes not much seems to change, maybe an extra pound of boost. I don't drive much so I haven't filled my tank with octane booster like the service advisor instructed, I'll comment when I do though. Also, not directly related to the topic but I'm starting to hear some "chatter" at idle, kinda worried it could be the clutch/flywheel. @jaydubz79 I think I might end up escalating this to Honda NA depending how this goes. Even if nothing is wrong with my car I don't appreciate being treated like some punk kid, very unprofessional of the service rep.
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I haven't read what the manual says in this circumstance, but at least for the car fill door it says unleaded fuel only, premium recommended. If you're putting 93 octane of top tier gas, there's no need to throw more money to get maybe 1 more point. I've gotten a bad batch of gas a couple times over the years, but I'd flat out refuse to add additives to my fuel to any service advisor who recommends them. They're on shaky ground as they're recommending doing something outside/beyond the bounds of what you should need to do. Once you're through your existing tank, if you still have a problem that concerns you, I'd bring it back.
With all that being said, the car has been proven to simply not reach 20.3 psi on the factory tune. There's been several threads that have beat this to death. KTuner had a thread a while back that said, when they looked at the factory boost targets, the highest boost target they saw was 19.5. Based on this, 20.3 may be the highest number they saw as a small boost spike in the testing phase and what was published. I don't know. I agree, I never had a car before this one give a boost spec and fall so far short.
Take a little solice in the fact that the Civics not making 20.3 for an SI is consistent across all 2017s/2018s with the factory tune. Based on this, there is likely nothing wrong with your car based on the number alone. If your car feels substantially down on power or the sounds you hear, yes... by all means take it in. I just wouldn't center on that number when you talk to the tech. Base it on a loss of power and odd noises. Tell them you've got through more than one tank of gas and you're not adding an additive that you have no intention of adding for the life of the car to have it perform correctly. If it that *did* help, it's a band-aid that you shouldn't need and would cost you to continue doing. This isn't an old 80s Chevy with a knock. It's a modern car and your using the recommended fuel for peak factory performance. You should expect it to perform as such and nothing less.
With all that being said, the car has been proven to simply not reach 20.3 psi on the factory tune. There's been several threads that have beat this to death. KTuner had a thread a while back that said, when they looked at the factory boost targets, the highest boost target they saw was 19.5. Based on this, 20.3 may be the highest number they saw as a small boost spike in the testing phase and what was published. I don't know. I agree, I never had a car before this one give a boost spec and fall so far short.
Take a little solice in the fact that the Civics not making 20.3 for an SI is consistent across all 2017s/2018s with the factory tune. Based on this, there is likely nothing wrong with your car based on the number alone. If your car feels substantially down on power or the sounds you hear, yes... by all means take it in. I just wouldn't center on that number when you talk to the tech. Base it on a loss of power and odd noises. Tell them you've got through more than one tank of gas and you're not adding an additive that you have no intention of adding for the life of the car to have it perform correctly. If it that *did* help, it's a band-aid that you shouldn't need and would cost you to continue doing. This isn't an old 80s Chevy with a knock. It's a modern car and your using the recommended fuel for peak factory performance. You should expect it to perform as such and nothing less.
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