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Common response to 2.0 owners here which was zero help. Anyone have an answer for the colder plugs on the 2.0?
oooh NOS on 2.0 CVT? What sort of kit are you running?
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Is there any threads or knowledge on the HKS vs NGK plugs for the FK8? I'm sure its nothing substanial but its always a good read!
 

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The stock NGK actually is good enough.

HKS MR 45HLZ is produced by ngk too, but with a little bit upgrade + smooth idle. if you tune your car properly, it will give more constant power chart.

if you put stack in together with HS Coil/ MSD coil/ Ignition Project Coil. maybe add some gains for horsepower and torque, better cold start, idle + acceleration

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Hks is still the same NGK with improvement / a little bit upgrade, especially for performance cars.

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On NGK jp's official website, LKAR8ARX-PS is listed as the premium option for FC1 and FK7, while the ILZKAR8H8S is the stock one. The premium ones are on sale on amazon japan for 15USD each.

Here is NGK's official site

Hope it helps.
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Is the ngk rx premium plug(LKAR8ARX-PS, 94207) suitable for 1.5T no si?

If suitable is it better than laser iridium or what the pros and cons?
Awesome! Spark plugs are fine thread, so the thread pitch would be M12x1.25mm.



We're not quite sure what this part number is, but at this time there are no other suitable/recommended plugs for these cars.



Again, there is no other suitable/recommended plugs for these cars. There is no need for a "better" or "upgraded" plug. We talked and worked directly with an NGK rep whom was in our shop and sent us numerous plugs to try. We had high hopes for their Ruthenium HX plugs, which are supposed to be their "better" plug. However, upon testing, we discovered that the factory coil boot does not fit over top insulator of the plug (white body) because the Ruthenium top insulator is too fat. This was news to NGK. Unless this has been fixed over the past few weeks (which we doubt it has), there are no other compatible plugs available.

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So I just got the NGKs 95112 and they seem to be gapped at 0.028 (barely, maybe even a little narrower than that) and I have a stock non-Si 1.5l turbo. I know @PRL Motorsports states that's the lower band of allowance for those cars but should i increase the gap a little bit to get it closer to 0.030? Is there a danger to having a narrower gap?
 

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So I just got the NGKs 95112 and they seem to be gapped at 0.028 (barely, maybe even a little narrower than that) and I have a stock non-Si 1.5l turbo. I know @PRL Motorsports states that's the lower band of allowance for those cars but should i increase the gap a little bit to get it closer to 0.030? Is there a danger to having a narrower gap?
If you're stock, I'd gap them to .030, to be honest.
 

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If you're stock, I'd gap them to .030, to be honest.
I'm stock now but I may want to go Stage 1 soon so I'm just trying to determine if there are issues running 0.028 on stock for now. I'm also not as confident gapping these iridium tips without damaging them tbh
 


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I know what you're thinking, "Another spark plug thread? Really?" :doh: Yes, really. Everyday we seem to receive inquiries from customers regarding which spark plugs he/she should run in their 1.5L Turbo Honda. As these cars become more commonly modified these questions are going to continue roll in.

Let's start with the basics. Honda provides a nifty little maintenance schedule minder for those with stock/near-stock cars that drive rather "normal" with very limited spirited driving. Maintenance Minder 4 (100,000 miles) is the factory recommended interval those covered under the "normal" driving category. However, it is not a bad idea to check the plugs a bit more often than this if tuned, moderately modified or if you enjoy racing around town all the time like Johnny Tran all the time.
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The Honda factory spark plugs for the 1.5T Civic Non-Si are NGK 95112 Laser Iridium Spark Plug ILZKAR8H8S Heat Range 8 and NGK 95660 ILZKAR8J8SY Laser Iridium Spark Plug for the 1.5T Accord, Civic Si, CR-V, 2.0T Accord and RDX. The only differences between these two plugs are the gaps.
*Technically the 1.5T & 2.0T Honda Accord 2.0T and Acura RDX use a DILKAR8P8SY Heat Range 8 Honda part number 12290-6A0-A01, which is a Japanese NGK spark plug and can only be purchased through Honda at this time. However, it has identical specs of the NGK 95660 ILZKAR8J8SY plug and can be interchanged.

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NGK Laser Iridium Spark Plugs provide superior ignitability and long service life.

The fine wire center electrode and the fine wire ground electrode offer the smallest tip diameter available with Iridium and Platinum surfaces that ensure a slow wear rate, provide a stable idle, offer superior anti fouling, improve your fuel efficiency, and lower your vehicle's emissions.

Features
  • Laser welded Iridium center electrode tip
  • Platinum disc welded to backside of ground electrode provides
  • “Trivalent Metal Plating” provides superior anti-corrosion and anti-seizing properties
  • Faster starts and quicker acceleration
  • Long service life, better fuel economy and lower emissions
  • Best OEM Iridium spark plug available
  • Original Equipment Manufacturer approved design
These plugs are supposed to come out of the box with a 0.030" gap (NGK 95112) or 0.032" gap (NGK 95660), which is within factory spec for these cars. However, we always recommend checking the gaps just to make sure.

1.5T Si Factory Recommended Electrode Gap:
Standard (New)
0.70-0.75 mm (0.0276-0.0295")

1.5T Non-Si Factory Recommended Electrode Gap:
Standard (New)
0.7-0.8 mm (0.028-0.031")

K20C1 Factory Recommended Electrode Gap:
Standard (New)
0.7-0.8 mm (0.028-0.031")

Torque Specs: Aluminum: 10.8-14.5 lb. ft.

Longevity: 100k Miles

"But what if I'm full bolt-on or Stage 5 broooo?" At this point in time we recommend stock plugs for ANY power goals you may have. We are currently running stock plugs gapped down to 0.018" on our shop car making well over 600 horsepower without any issues whatsoever. If you're moderately to extremely modified and/or running high boost levels you will most likely need to gap your plugs down. Higher cylinder pressure(s) will increase the difficulty for spark to jump from the electrode to the strap. Tightening the gap between the electrode and strap will allow spark to jump much easier with higher cylinder pressure(s), reducing the risk of ignition misfire. If professional tuned/tuning, we recommend discussing spark plug gap with the tuner.

For reference, we have been using/recommending stock spark plugs in high power 8th Gen, 9th Gen and now 10th Gen Honda Civics for years without any ignition related issues. Modern coil on plug (COP) ignitions systems have replaced outdated distributor based ignition systems allowing, factory ignition systems to work much more efficiently.

Please do not fall for "1-step colder" plugs, "similar" plugs your buddy recommended, brands other than NGK or knock-off NGK plugs. At this point in time there are no "colder" spark plugs available or "similar" plugs that will work. We have worked directly with NGK to test fit a few different plugs that we were told may work. They did NOT. There's a reason Honda uses NGK. There are quite a few people offering fake/knock-off NGK plugs (CLICK THIS LINK ON HOW TO SPOT AUTHENTIC NGK SPARK PLUGS), so be sure to purchase off of a reputable vendor. (cough cough, we sell these) :thumbsup:

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Thanks for the tip?? I went to my local dealership and they charge 100 bucks for 4 plugs which is highway robbery welcome to cvd19 price gouging ? this thread has helped me a lot guess i’ll have to purchase some prior too getting my tune. Im full fbo minus the turbo do you suggest i install them sooner rather than later?
 

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I know what you're thinking, "Another spark plug thread? Really?" :doh: Yes, really. Everyday we seem to receive inquiries from customers regarding which spark plugs he/she should run in their 1.5L Turbo Honda. As these cars become more commonly modified these questions are going to continue roll in.

Let's start with the basics. Honda provides a nifty little maintenance schedule minder for those with stock/near-stock cars that drive rather "normal" with very limited spirited driving. Maintenance Minder 4 (100,000 miles) is the factory recommended interval those covered under the "normal" driving category. However, it is not a bad idea to check the plugs a bit more often than this if tuned, moderately modified or if you enjoy racing around town all the time like Johnny Tran all the time.
Johnny_Tran_3_zpswgyzzohz.png


The Honda factory spark plugs for the 1.5T Civic Non-Si are NGK 95112 Laser Iridium Spark Plug ILZKAR8H8S Heat Range 8 and NGK 95660 ILZKAR8J8SY Laser Iridium Spark Plug for the 1.5T Accord, Civic Si, CR-V, 2.0T Accord and RDX. The only differences between these two plugs are the gaps.
*Technically the 1.5T & 2.0T Honda Accord 2.0T and Acura RDX use a DILKAR8P8SY Heat Range 8 Honda part number 12290-6A0-A01, which is a Japanese NGK spark plug and can only be purchased through Honda at this time. However, it has identical specs of the NGK 95660 ILZKAR8J8SY plug and can be interchanged.

5a33458468aac_zpsax3cv47d.jpg

31cKP0LKS7L._SY355__zpsjiekjjam.jpg


NGK Laser Iridium Spark Plugs provide superior ignitability and long service life.

The fine wire center electrode and the fine wire ground electrode offer the smallest tip diameter available with Iridium and Platinum surfaces that ensure a slow wear rate, provide a stable idle, offer superior anti fouling, improve your fuel efficiency, and lower your vehicle's emissions.

Features
  • Laser welded Iridium center electrode tip
  • Platinum disc welded to backside of ground electrode provides
  • “Trivalent Metal Plating” provides superior anti-corrosion and anti-seizing properties
  • Faster starts and quicker acceleration
  • Long service life, better fuel economy and lower emissions
  • Best OEM Iridium spark plug available
  • Original Equipment Manufacturer approved design
These plugs are supposed to come out of the box with a 0.030" gap (NGK 95112) or 0.032" gap (NGK 95660), which is within factory spec for these cars. However, we always recommend checking the gaps just to make sure.

1.5T Si Factory Recommended Electrode Gap:
Standard (New)
0.70-0.75 mm (0.0276-0.0295")

1.5T Non-Si Factory Recommended Electrode Gap:
Standard (New)
0.7-0.8 mm (0.028-0.031")

K20C1 Factory Recommended Electrode Gap:
Standard (New)
0.7-0.8 mm (0.028-0.031")

Torque Specs: Aluminum: 10.8-14.5 lb. ft.

Longevity: 100k Miles

"But what if I'm full bolt-on or Stage 5 broooo?" At this point in time we recommend stock plugs for ANY power goals you may have. We are currently running stock plugs gapped down to 0.018" on our shop car making well over 600 horsepower without any issues whatsoever. If you're moderately to extremely modified and/or running high boost levels you will most likely need to gap your plugs down. Higher cylinder pressure(s) will increase the difficulty for spark to jump from the electrode to the strap. Tightening the gap between the electrode and strap will allow spark to jump much easier with higher cylinder pressure(s), reducing the risk of ignition misfire. If professional tuned/tuning, we recommend discussing spark plug gap with the tuner.

For reference, we have been using/recommending stock spark plugs in high power 8th Gen, 9th Gen and now 10th Gen Honda Civics for years without any ignition related issues. Modern coil on plug (COP) ignitions systems have replaced outdated distributor based ignition systems allowing, factory ignition systems to work much more efficiently.

Please do not fall for "1-step colder" plugs, "similar" plugs your buddy recommended, brands other than NGK or knock-off NGK plugs. At this point in time there are no "colder" spark plugs available or "similar" plugs that will work. We have worked directly with NGK to test fit a few different plugs that we were told may work. They did NOT. There's a reason Honda uses NGK. There are quite a few people offering fake/knock-off NGK plugs (CLICK THIS LINK ON HOW TO SPOT AUTHENTIC NGK SPARK PLUGS), so be sure to purchase off of a reputable vendor. (cough cough, we sell these) :thumbsup:

PRODUCT LINK
At what point do we start swapping to the Si plugs for the non Si 1.5t modification wise?
 

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Hi all, have a question to anyone. I'm currently tuned on phearable mostly on map 2 non si. As soon as I change my oil I'm planning on taking out the spark plugs to observe them and gap them down to the minimum if I can. What would be the lowest amount of gap from the plugs allowed running stock motor? Would gapping them down to let's say 0.027 be ok without issues? Thanks I would appreciate any feedback
 

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You would be fine.
 

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1.5 cvt Hondata +6 injen cai rv6 catless.
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I was getting real bad mpg (36 max) and sputtering from 3000-4000 while gapped at .032”
I gapped them down to .028” and it’s very smooth response and back to 42-43mpg

Shout out to Oreilys for the .17 cent Champion spark plug gap tool(s)

And big thanks to PRL for this thread. I had actually thought stock gap was .028” until checking NGK website and seeing it .032” . I might actually go down to .025-.027 since running Hondata +6. The real noticeable difference comes when you run the catless pipe. A lot more room to breathe now.
Are you still tuned with a .28 gap?
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