Is the power on the 10th gen Civic SI enough?

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For almost a year now I’ve been looking to buy a new car around the $25k (Canadian $) price range, looking primarily at 2013-2014 Subaru STi’s, golf Rs and some Bmw M235is. But after looking at all the cars, there have been things pushing me away from a purchase of one of these vehicles used, such as high km, high insurance and gas prices and mainly just insecurity about buying one of these vehicles used let alone modified. So after looking for months on months I’ve decided to scrap the idea of getting one of those 3 cars and now I’m seriously considering getting a low km used 10th gen Civic si coupe but I’m concerned the car is going to feel underpowered or like a commuter’s vehicle and I don’t want to mod the car. I know I can test drive the car and see for myself but a 20 minute drive on busy city streets isn’t going to truly show me what the car is capable of. So in the end I’m wondering from a SI owners point of view if the car is “fast and fun” compared to a STi or golf R even though they’re not on the same level of performance.



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It is a well balanced car with nice amounts of torque and excellent handling. The icing on the cake is the incredible mpg you get.

In the end though, in stock form, these are essentially commuter vehicles, not sports cars, but for most owners, it's a very fun, reliable ride.
 

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You might want to specify what kind of power and performance is acceptable to you (acceleration, top speed, etc.) so that the SI owners can pitch in on whether the SI is capable of it.

I know HP isn't everything but to give an example, there is about a hundred horses difference betweem the STI and the SI. Also, the former is AWD while the later is FWD.

Good luck in your hunt and I hope you are happy with whichever car you choose :)
 

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Even when I first sat in a type R my first thought was it still feels like a civic.
 

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I think the Civic SI was a perfect choice. I like the fact that in normal it has enough kick to get ahead at a stop light and get 6.4L/100km on the highway cruising (i can even get lower than that) and if I want performance I just press the sport button.

I admit I wanted more of a difference when pressing the sport button that when the ktuner came in. With the settings I have I love my car and it might actually be one of the first cars I keep for longer than 2years.
 

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Even when I first sat in a type R my first thought was it still feels like a civic.
Because it is? The CTR isn't going to blow anyone's mind just by sitting in it. The interior isn't why it costs so much more than a lower trim level Civic.
 

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Because it is? The CTR isn't going to blow anyone's mind just by sitting in it. The interior isn't why it costs so much more than a lower trim level Civic.
Correct, I was trying to enforce where the OP said he's worried the Si will feel like a commuter, even the type R still feels like a cheap commuter until you take it on the track.
 

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This while being on the Phearable tune... Granted, it's all highway mileage but there's power on tap. Is it enough power? Well, that's completely subjective.

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The Si is a fun zippy car stock. The handling is amazing, power is just adequate. It’s no drag racer for sure, even tuned. Overall it’s a really fun and engaging car to drive. Add a tune and the car completely wakes up. Fuel economy is amazing given the performance.
 

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The Si is going to feel more like a commuter compared the STi and M235i for sure. The Golf R is pretty sedate but it would be faster. The Si will have lower maintenance costs and better MPGs though, and will still give you some pep when you need it.

So it depends, I think the Si compares well enough to a WRX and GTI. The Golf R/STi competes more with a Type R though, so the Si might be a little underpowered compared head to head. The Si is a better bargain.
 

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A car like an M235i puts a huge grin on your face when you step on the gas. You won't ever get that with an Si. It's the Miata of sport sedans, not the Dodge Challenger.

It's torquey though, way more than normally aspirated four cylinder Hondas you might be used to.
 

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Op, what about GTI? A new gti cost around $26k.
 

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Yup like everyone said above it's a commuter car. However you can get a few key upgrades and honestly beat a decent amount of cars. Go stage 2 tune + E85 and that alone will give you plenty torque and power to beat quite a few cars. Only thing with that route is the other supporting mods that you'll have to go with such as an upgraded clutch since the clutches on these cars are pretty weak. I have a few buddies in my njxgens group that are pushing 330hp+, one of them actually just dynoed 357/307 and he can beat plenty STI's and R's
 

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I'm gonna point out that op stated he does not want to mod the car.

That being said, the si is definitely underpowered compared to the other cars you mentioned. Go test drive one first but honestly I would get something with more power unless you have a good amount of fun curvy roads you can hit up regularly. The straight line performance is lacking in stock form.
 

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