How do you avoid doing this to your paint?

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So I have noticed quite a few Hondas with the pain problem you can see in the image I posted. I had a Mazda for 12 years and the paint was perfect. I suspect that someone used a buffer incorrectly on the paint? I love my Civic and want to avoid this problem if possible.


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So I have noticed quite a few Hondas with the pain problem you can see in the image I posted. I had a Mazda for 12 years and the paint was perfect. I suspect that someone used a buffer incorrectly on the paint? I love my Civic and want to avoid this problem if possible.


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Some mid 90's/early 2000 Hondas seem to be suscepticle to this is exact pattern of paint destruction. I've seen this alot and don't know what causes it. I have a 2000 Coupe (Milano Red) and aside from the random rock or door ding, the paint has has held up 100%. I'm in FL, so similar weather with some more rain.

I know that really doesn't answer your question, but it's my free anecdotal observation FWIW.
 

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That looks like clear coat failure. Maintaining your cars paint and clear coat with regular washing and using some kind of protection on it (wax, polymer sealant or ceramic coating) should keep that from occurring.
 


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Yeah, definitely clear coat failure. Must seal and wax your car's paint to keep that from happening.
 

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Clearcoat delamination is a result of mfgs using cheap clearcoats. No amount of wax or sealers can prevent delamination. Hopefully, Honda has fixed this by using a quality clearcoat.
 

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Yup clear coat failure. The 2007 Civic I had was plagued with that issue so many on the road having that problem. I tried to wax mine at the time at least every other month. 2 years later it was definitely fading on the roof but never oxidized. The hood on the other hand had crows feet within a year of owning it and was repainted twice under warranty.

They stay this issue was fixed a couple years ago, but if you don't properly take care of your vehicle and live in a hot climate like Florida, Texas or Arizona. Be prepared.
 

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This is what happens when you wash you car with dish soap or harsh soaps that strip off your clear coat.
 

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This is what happens when you wash you car with dish soap or harsh soaps that strip off your clear coat.
False.

Using harsh detergents are definitely not good for clearcoats, this chalking and delamination is a result of the mfg's using a cheap clearcoat with little or no UV protection.. No soap can degrade or strip a catalyzed clearcoat.

Nothing, no product or prayers can prevent this from happening to cheap clearcoats. Nothing.
 


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False.

Using harsh detergents are definitely not good for clearcoats, this chalking and delamination is a result of the mfg's using a cheap clearcoat with little or no UV protection.. No soap can degrade or strip a catalyzed clearcoat.

Nothing, no product or prayers can prevent this from happening to cheap clearcoats. Nothing.
Then all accords of that age should have that happening. But they don't. I still think it has to do how well the paint is taken care of.
 

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False.

Using harsh detergents are definitely not good for clearcoats, this chalking and delamination is a result of the mfg's using a cheap clearcoat with little or no UV protection.. No soap can degrade or strip a catalyzed clearcoat.

Nothing, no product or prayers can prevent this from happening to cheap clearcoats. Nothing.
Let's say you apply and maintain a ceramic coating over a faulty clearcoat that has not yet begun to degrade. Since the clearcoat is now protected due to the coating, will it still end up like the photo in the original post?
 

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Let's say you apply and maintain a ceramic coating over a faulty clearcoat that has not yet begun to degrade. Since the clearcoat is now protected due to the coating, will it still end up like the photo in the original post?
If you clearcoat is already failing there is nothing you can put on it that will correct the issue. Once failure has begun there is no reversing the process, unless you respray the car. Many cars from many different brands had these issues during these years. With proper cleaning and regular maintenance of your vehicle and it will never look like this.
 

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There were a number of colors for hondas from i believe 05-07 or so that had recalls for bad paint that resulted in the clear coats ending up like that - there was a window where owners could get it repainted for free - my sister BF had one that missed the productions date by a month - his clear coat is just about gone and they wouldnt fix it because he didnt make the cut off
 

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Everytime it rains enough that I can see the beads on the roof (important cause that is your clear-coat and wax doing what it does), I remove the water by wiping the car's clearcoat off with a simple linen type cloth so it is atleast 90% dry, especially if it is late and I won't be using the car for the day. I think this is crucial cause getting rid of "standing water on your paint surface" helps the clear coat last longer, doh, self-explanatory. If you do not employ this tactic, I would add it to your repertoire.
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