How can brake hold be used to hill start 1st/reverse on the Si?

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New manual driver, was just wondering if there's any way to use the brake hold button to keep the clutch in and get the revs up to get off of a hill. Only thing is everywhere I'm reading is that it disengages when throttle is given so doesn't that make it useless essentially? Or is that only for the CVT civics? Would it just be better to get the revs up past 2k and then let the clutch out to the biting point then release parking brake?

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Brake hold is different than hill hold. Regardless of you having brake hold enabled, if you are on an incline at a stop w/ the clutch in, the car will engage the brakes until you release the clutch.

edit: not sure if hill hold engages when in reverse
 

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New manual driver, was just wondering if there's any way to use the brake hold button to keep the clutch in and get the revs up to get off of a hill. Only thing is everywhere I'm reading is that it disengages when throttle is given so doesn't that make it useless essentially? Or is that only for the CVT civics? Would it just be better to get the revs up past 2k and then let the clutch out to the biting point then release parking brake?

All advice appreciated thank you guys.
Break hold will work on a hill just fine. Try it without anyone behind you- it works as it should. It doesn't let go when you hit the gas, it lets go when the car will roll forward or about there.
 

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For me, it disengages when the car starts moving forward. I've used it a few times on hills and it's never dropped back.
 

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From the owner's manual:

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Confirmed this morning that when stopped on a hill w/ the clutch in, the hill hold is engaged w/ my foot of the brake until I start releasing the clutch. And this is w/o the brake hold enabled.
 
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Break hold will work on a hill just fine. Try it without anyone behind you- it works as it should. It doesn't let go when you hit the gas, it lets go when the car will roll forward or about there.
Ohh OK I was under the impression it would disengage when given throttle. Brake hold sounds like a life saver for hill starts then?
 
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Confirmed this morning that when stopped on a hill w/ the clutch in, the hill hold is engaged w/ my foot of the brake until I start releasing the clutch. And this is w/o the brake hold enabled.
Wait so on a hill the car doesn't roll back if the clutch is in? How come?
 
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For me, it disengages when the car starts moving forward. I've used it a few times on hills and it's never dropped back.
That's awesome then. I was really worried about hill starts but brake hold makes them so much less intimidating.
 

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I remember my first manual car that did not have brake hold or hill assist!

Brake hold will hold you there without your foot on the brake forever (well there may be a limit, 10 minutes I think and after that it automatically turns on the e-brake) and will disengage once you start moving forward.

Hill assist holds you for a couple seconds when you take your foot off the brake, should be enough time to take off without the car rolling backwards.
 
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Confirmed this morning that when stopped on a hill w/ the clutch in, the hill hold is engaged w/ my foot of the brake until I start releasing the clutch. And this is w/o the brake hold enabled.
Really?
Usually hill assist holds you only for a couple of seconds not until you start moving.
 

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Really?
Usually hill assist holds you only for a couple of seconds not until you start moving.
Guess I should clarify then. I didn't sit there too long w/ my foot off the brake. Just a couple seconds before giving it some gas and releasing the clutch. I'll check later to see how long hill hold stays engaged.
 

                           

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