Hondata Fuel System

[kshawn]

Please make somthing like this for the SI! Or at least give us a intank solution

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[Rickyshoots]

ordered mine today excited to see what it will do
will have a catless DP
AWE track edition exhaust
prl flex fuel
prl intercooler
k&n drop in filter
and now the Hondata fuel upgrade with Flash Pro

 

[Hondata]

91 and occosianlly e85 if its possible

The power for 91 with a stock cat will be just a little less than our published dyno with high flow cat. A tune with E46 (or close) will be just little less than our published dyno chart. You can run E85, but will get better range and similar power to run an ethanol blend between 40 and 50%. Look out for a Youtube video (subscribe) on flex fuel tuning with the Hondata Fuel system.

 

[LURK-R]

The power for 91 with a stock cat will be just a little less than our published dyno with high flow cat. A tune with E46 (or close) will be just little less than our published dyno chart. You can run E85, but will get better range and similar power to run an ethanol blend between 40 and 50%. Look out for a Youtube video (subscribe) on flex fuel tuning with the Hondata Fuel system.

I'd want to run straight E85 for less hassle. Pull up to the pump, fill up and go.

 

[redwing497]

I’m just curious to know if it’s even possible to put this much power down. I’m stock and I have traction issues in 1st and 2nd gear. I realize it’s not a drag car, but with this much power, I would imagine 3rd gear will have problems too. Someone educate me!

 

[TypeSiR]

$ per horsepower (over stock power) by adding various mods

Mods	Cost	Baseline Dyno (HP)	Modded Dyno (HP)	% HP Gain	HP Gain	$ / HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak	$940	317 HP	351 HP (91 oct)	11%	34 HP	$28/HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak + Flex Fuel	$1389	317 HP	386 HP (E40) ***	22%	69 HP	$20/HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + (DP & FMIC)	$3785 + $1180	316 HP	375 HP (91 oct)	18%	59 HP	$84/HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + Flex Fuel + (DP & FMIC)	$4234 + $1180	317 HP	415 HP (E46)	31%	98 HP	$55/HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + Flex Fuel + (Full Race Turbo) + (DP & FMIC)	$4234 + $4546 + $1180	317 HP	477 HP (E40)	50%	160 HP	$62/HP

*** Assuming maxed out stock fuel system.

Flashpro + Jailbreak

Flashpro + Jailbreak + Flex Fuel (maxed out stock fuel system)

Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + (DP & FMIC)

Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + Flex Fuel + (DP & FMIC)

Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + Flex Fuel + (Full-Race Turbo) + (DP & FMIC)

Sources: Hondata, Procivic, Full-Race, PRL

/too much time to kill? yes.

 

[Tim818]

Curious to see the whp and wtq on 93 with FBO....

 

[AdamD19DFK8]

The 448hp/409tq (reducing the inflated Dyno numbers by 6%, because let's be honest, you're not going to get 317hp with a stock tune base line on 91. 295-300hp is more like it, being generous) was done with the borgwarner 7163 turbo kit? How different would the results on 93 be? That's a little disconcerting seeing how $8,000 plus clutch, and full bolt ons would buy you 450hp. Even more money if you build up the block.

 

[breakingakajav]

The 448hp/409tq (reducing the inflated Dyno numbers by 6%, because let's be honest, you're not going to get 317hp with a stock tune base line on 91. 295-300hp is more like it, being generous) was done with the borgwarner 7163 turbo kit? How different would the results on 93 be? That's a little disconcerting seeing how $8,000 plus clutch, and full bolt ons would buy you 450hp. Even more money if you build up the block.

Interesting thought because most stock CTRs were pulling 295-301 on dynos.

 

[tinyman392]

$ per horsepower (over stock power) by adding various mods

Mods	Cost	Baseline Dyno (HP)	Modded Dyno (HP)	% HP Gain	HP Gain	$ / HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak	$940	317 HP	351 HP (91 oct)	11%	34 HP	$28/HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak + Flex Fuel	$1389	317 HP	386 HP (E40) ***	22%	69 HP	$20/HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + (DP & FMIC)	$3785 + $1180	316 HP	375 HP (91 oct)	18%	59 HP	$84/HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + Flex Fuel + (DP & FMIC)	$4234 + $1180	317 HP	415 HP (E46)	31%	98 HP	$55/HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + Flex Fuel + (Full Race Turbo) + (DP & FMIC)	$4234 + $4546 + $1180	317 HP	477 HP (E40)	50%	160 HP	$62/HP

*** Assuming maxed out stock fuel system.

Flashpro + Jailbreak

Flashpro + Jailbreak + Flex Fuel (maxed out stock fuel system)

Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + (DP & FMIC)

Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + Flex Fuel + (DP & FMIC)

Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + Flex Fuel + (Full-Race Turbo) + (DP & FMIC)

Source: Hondata, Procivic, Full-Race

/too much time to kill? yes.

Your base dyno is a little high. Stock CTR normally hits 290-300 to the wheels.

 

[Tim818]

Your base dyno is a little high. Stock CTR normally hits 290-300 to the wheels.

He’s just going by the numbers on the dyno graph that was posted by @Hondata

I already know one of you is going to buy this fuel system kit and choose the 93 map, not many of us have access to flex fuel is why I’m curious what the numbers are, with intake, inlet pipe, intercooler, turbo back exhaust without the cat on 93 pump gas.

 

[IHadToRun]

$ per horsepower (over stock power) by adding various mods

Mods	Cost	Baseline Dyno (HP)	Modded Dyno (HP)	% HP Gain	HP Gain	$ / HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak	$940	317 HP	351 HP (91 oct)	11%	34 HP	$28/HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak + Flex Fuel	$1389	317 HP	386 HP (E40) ***	22%	69 HP	$20/HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + (DP & FMIC)	$3785 + $1180	316 HP	375 HP (91 oct)	18%	59 HP	$84/HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + Flex Fuel + (DP & FMIC)	$4234 + $1180	317 HP	415 HP (E46)	31%	98 HP	$55/HP
Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + Flex Fuel + (Full Race Turbo) + (DP & FMIC)	$4234 + $4546 + $1180	317 HP	477 HP (E40)	50%	160 HP	$62/HP

*** Assuming maxed out stock fuel system.

Flashpro + Jailbreak

Flashpro + Jailbreak + Flex Fuel (maxed out stock fuel system)

Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + (DP & FMIC)

Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + Flex Fuel + (DP & FMIC)

Flashpro + Jailbreak + Fuel System + Flex Fuel + (Full-Race Turbo) + (DP & FMIC)

Source: Hondata, Procivic, Full-Race

/too much time to kill? yes.

I think something to consider too is TQ numbers, though just my opinion. Love the write up.

I wanted to do flex fuel kit but the nearest gas station that has corn is about 20-30 minutes away depending on traffic.

 

[ayau]

@TypeSiR , thanks for providing that chart. It just reinforces the idea that flex fuel is still the best bang per dollar for peak hp and tq. It would be nice if there was a single dyno graph that shows the tq curve comparisons between all the different options.

 

[Snmtazz70]

93 oct, FBO numbers, however maxing out the pump makes lean so I wouldn't push it this hard all the time.

Matt

 

[remc86007]

I know this is an Hondata thread, but since we are looking at HP/$ the absolute best bang for the buck is probably ktuner Stage 1.1 with an otherwise stock setup. Also, isn't DRob getting 370-380 whp with just an intercooler, highlow cat/downpipe and 93? I know every dyno is different, but if you are just looking for HP per dollar; ktuner + intercooler + downpipe is a pretty good deal. Having said that; I think I'm going to be switching to Hondata soon from ktuner as there are just too many things missing from ktuner right now.

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