Honda S660 roadster first review

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Really do wish they would bring this mid-engined roadster to the US market.

S660 first drive review: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-honda-s660-mid-engine-roadster-first-drive-review

Honda is on a mission to get its sporty groove back. We’ve already seen the new Acura NSX; the Civic Type R was revealed at the recent Geneva auto show; the company’s comeback as a Formula 1 engine supplier is underway; and now Honda has added a new, somewhat smaller, performance car to its range. First shown in concept form at the 2013 Tokyo show, the S660 is a spiritual successor to the tiny Beat roadster of the early 1990s.

Like the Beat, the S660 features a mid-engine layout with a 660-cc, three-cylinder turbo that keeps it within the parameters of a kei car (a special class of ultrasmall subcompacts) in its home market of Japan. Sure, it looks cool, but why should Americans care? Well, as we reported in January, an inside source told us that the company is also currently working on an export version with a more powerful, 1.0-liter turbo rumored to pump out more than 125 horsepower—and that it’s earmarked for the United States. That’s reason enough to take this little funster for a spin.

From Show Floor to Track Paddock

As we arrived at Sodegaura Forest Raceway, 90 minutes southeast of Tokyo, three S660s sat in the paddock. They looked almost identical to the 2013 concept car that spawned the new model. The S660 is the result of an in-house contest that began four years ago, wherein more than 400 young engineers submitted ideas for new vehicles to company bosses, and the S660 design came out on top.

Honda has developed a mid-engine, rear-wheel-drive chassis just for the S660, which uses an aluminum-and-steel structure that’s stiffer than the old S2000’s. The Japan-spec S660 might be fitted with an uninspiring 63-hp engine, but we’re told this chassis could take a lot more power—hence the 125-hp version. You can feel the rigidity, too, in high-speed corners and under heavy braking.

Small Car, Small Engine

Tipping the scales at just 1830 pounds (according to Honda), the S660 employs the same three-cylinder turbocharged engine found in the popular N-Box kei car. However, to improve throttle response, engineers have revised the turbo geometry to produce quicker off-the-line acceleration and stronger midrange torque.

To lift the overall performance of the engine, the redline is raised from 7000 rpm to 7700 rpm, while a deeper oil pan helps to cope with the higher g-forces during cornering and braking. The turbo spools up at about 2500 rpm and delivers a healthy dose of torque all the way to redline. It’s between 5000 and 7700 rpm that the engine really comes to life, though, letting out a high-pitched and metallic raspy roar that belies its tiny displacement.

Like the S2000’s legendary gearbox and shifter, the S660 features a positive-feeling, six-speed manual transmission with delightfully short throws and gear ratios that are superbly matched to the engine. It also has well-positioned pedals and a light clutch.

Granted, there’s not a lot of power on tap, but even when flung into a corner at 60 mph, it’s difficult to get the planted rear end to budge. Honda’s “Agile Handling Assist” system can brake an inside front wheel to enhance turn-in and cornering stability, while specially developed 16-inch Yokohama Advan Neova tires provide traction levels previously unheard of in kei cars.

All that grip and the fact that the traction control can’t be switched off means there’s no oversteer to play around with. But there’s no understeer, either, just an at-the-limit neutrality that’s fairly rare these days. As for the steering—which is accomplished via an extrasmall, 13.8-inch wheel—it’s weighty enough to feel substantial, offers crisp responses, and provides decent feedback about what the front tires are doing.

The cabin is tight but comfortable. A six-foot-two-inch driver can fit behind the wheel and change gears without smashing his knees against the steering wheel—only just, mind you. The large, centrally located tachometer sets a sporty tone, while the dash-mounted screen offers drivers the option of a g-meter that displays lateral and deceleration forces in real time.

Our only issues with the S660 are the lack of outright power and its fiddly softtop roof, which must be manually deconstructed and placed in the tiny trunk. But other than that, the S660 takes the kei-car genre to new heights—we just hope Honda can bring it to our shores.


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That interior is pure S2000 reincarnate!
 

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1800 pounds?!?! Is that a typo?

This thing must be so easy to toss around and feel like a go cart. Didn't even think it was possible to make a road going car that light these days wow.
 

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S660 really sounds like the closest you can get to a go cart in a road car in terms of size and weight. 7700 RPM is impressive, but imagine a slightly more powerful engine. Would be a dream little weekend car.
 


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Why can't they bring this to the US? There's absolutly noting that would compete directly with it. It would sell!!!
 

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Why can't they bring this to the US? There's absolutly noting that would compete directly with it. It would sell!!!
My guess is a lot of these cars would just cost too much in the US and no one would buy it. That's the prob with these niche sports cars...they need to sell in volume for the bean counters to green light it being offered for this market since there are so many costs involved in getting it certified and compliant.
 

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Rumor is that a S1000 version is coming to the US with a one liter engine! :cool:

Pretty tiny car for the US market. Think it'd sell well?
 


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The S660 roadster has sold out in Japan.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ster-fails-to-attract-younger-buyers-in-japan

Honda Motor Co. has sold out all 8,600 of its new roadsters slated for production this year and is fully booked through June. The only problem: four in five buyers of the $16,000 sports car are over 40.

That is a much older demographic than other models in the lineup and many of these older customers are repeat customers buying the coupe as a second car, according to Misato Fukushima, a company spokeswoman. It’s also a contrast to the last sports car Honda introduced in 1999, the S2000. Back then, only one in five buyers were over 40 years of age.

While the older repeat buyers show Honda has a strong following of longtime fans, a failure to attract younger customers will hurt the prospects for the carmaker in its home market. The problem isn’t confined to Honda. Stagnating annual incomes and an efficient public transportation system means many younger people in Japan don’t see a need to own a car. The number of driver license holders under the age of 40 has fallen 46 percent over the last 13 years.

“It will be a big challenge for Honda to lure younger buyers,” said Yoshiaki Kawano, an analyst at IHS Automotive. “If you compare the demographic feature and average income with 20 years ago, I would say the motivation for young people to buy such a car could be quite limited.”

Honda expected the S660 to be popular among older customers but believes the proportion of young buyers will rise gradually, said Fukushima.

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With the S660, Honda is betting that its risk-taking -- the car is designed by a prodigy in his 20s with no engineering experience -- will revive its image as a maverick among the major carmakers, a producer of interesting cars rather than just nondescript mass-market compact models.

Demand for the S660 has been brisk and Honda plans to restart taking orders from October.

For Hitoshi Arai, 66, driving his brand-new S660, top down, through the countryside two to three times a month feels like a breath of fresh air, literally. The retired bank employee’s two adult sons, both in their 30s, haven’t shared in the rides.

“The elder one has shown some interest but the younger one just has no interest in cars at all,” said Arai, who also owns a Honda sport utility vehicle. “He would rather ride his bicycle.”
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