Honda Reveals 2017 Civic Si Coupe and Sedan (205 HP / 192 LB-FT)

[JDM_DOHC_SiR]

Is that the OEM harness?

No.. it's and adapter made with all OEM plugs wire and pins.

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[zroger73]

But with the help of this little gem you will be able to

How will the hyperflashing turn signal be dealt with since the LED headlights also have LED turn signals?

 

[JDM_DOHC_SiR]

How will the hyperflashing turn signal be dealt with since the LED headlights also have LED turn signals?

There is another connector that has the resistor that plugs in line to the harness so no factory wiring has to be cut.

 

[ne0guri]

I think searching actual dealer's inventory is probably the most accurate info. You can do it off of honda.com's "dealers" page. You see the actual status (or at least I hope it's "actual") -- things like "in transit", etc.

I concur. Was on the Honda page and saw one black in transit. Checked the actual dealer and I now see it listed on their lot. Definitely not getting black but I hope they will let me test drive that one.

 

[Design]

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We have a couple threads on it. Members have been doing it for around a year. Total cost + ~$950.

 

[ne0guri]

In the TFL video, the Autoguide.com guy mentions that the Coupe and Sedan have different grades of steel put into it. Can anyone confirm this and enlighten me on the differences?

 

[zroger73]

In the TFL video, the Autoguide.com guy mentions that the Coupe and Sedan have different grades of steel put into it. Can anyone confirm this and enlighten me on the differences?

I caught that as well. I did notice a while back that the NHTSA frontal crash rating was lower for the coupe than the sedan. One would probably find some clues by comparing Honda press releases for the sedan and coupe, the technical reports from the NHTSA website for each, and Honda body repair information for each model. That's a LOT of reading, though.

 

[zroger73]

The Si will use two-chamber units, representing settings for Normal and Sport.

The description of the Si dampers shows how far less complex they are than the MR dampers. No independent control of each individual wheel, no proprietary damper fluid and electromagnetic fields, no hundreds of steps of range constantly and instantly adapting.

Si dampers:

In normal driving mode, damping fluid in all four dampers flows through valving at a relatively high volume, offering less resistance and more compliance over bumps.

When the driver pushes the SPORT button, a solenoid in each damper receives a signal to alter the valving to a more constricting position, making the damper firmer on both the compression and rebound strokes.​

Naturally they'll be more expensive than basic dampers to replace, but nowhere close to the MDX/MR damper cost.

Continuing our discussion from last month...

Beginning at 17:25 in this video, Rob Keough explains, "...the system is a solenoid-controlled proportioning valve system... It's continuously adaptive based on dynamic inputs into the suspension... When you activate sport mode you preset the minimum damping force, but you still have full-range adapative [control] from that point throughout the dynamic range of the damper system."

This explanation implies that the solenoid doesn't simply remain on based on the activation of the SPORT mode, but rather it varies its duty cycle for a range of control in response to various inputs that may include vehicle speed, steering angle, acceleration, braking, suspension travel, SPORT mode selection, etc.

 

[sfedai0]

What do you guys think of the coupe tailights at night? Does the section between the two sides light up? I think its a bit too much.....

 

[BarracksSi]

What do you guys think of the coupe tailights at night? Does the section between the two sides light up? I think its a bit too much.....

It's pretty cool in person. Instantly recognizable as the coupe.

 

[exyia]

Continuing our discussion from last month...

Beginning at 17:25 in this video, Rob Keough explains, "...the system is a solenoid-controlled proportioning valve system... It's continuously adaptive based on dynamic inputs into the suspension... When you activate sport mode you preset the minimum damping force, but you still have full-range adapative [control] from that point throughout the dynamic range of the damper system."

This explanation implies that the solenoid doesn't simply remain on based on the activation of the SPORT mode, but rather it varies its duty cycle for a range of control in response to various inputs that may include vehicle speed, steering angle, acceleration, braking, suspension travel, SPORT mode selection, etc.

stumbled upon this and I'm a little intrigued on more about this system - it either has potential to be good, or crap

Can anybody determine who the OEM is for the shock? Either owners or dealership people? Is it a Bilstein system? Similar (not exact, but similar) was on old Corvettes...and it was not good

The concept of it has merit - if it's done properly and if it was done for performance rather than comfort.

 

[simulatedwoodgrain]

stumbled upon this and I'm a little intrigued on more about this system - it either has potential to be good, or crap

Can anybody determine who the OEM is for the shock? Either owners or dealership people? Is it a Bilstein system? Similar (not exact, but similar) was on old Corvettes...and it was not good

The concept of it has merit - if it's done properly and if it was done for performance rather than comfort.

Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the system used is the ZF cdc system here: https://www.zf.com/corporate/en_de/products/product_range/cars/cars_cdc.shtml

There is a download to the brochure with goes over the system in more detail here: https://www.zf.com/global/media/pro...ppelseiten_daempfungsmodule_engl_20110823.pdf

 

[exyia]

Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the system used is the ZF cdc system here: https://www.zf.com/corporate/en_de/products/product_range/cars/cars_cdc.shtml

There is a download to the brochure with goes over the system in more detail here: https://www.zf.com/global/media/pro...ppelseiten_daempfungsmodule_engl_20110823.pdf

Nice find.

Not sure how I feel about this. I'm disappointed they didn't go into this more, but probably because the media is not that technically savvy

Given the direction they took with the rest of the car (more refinement/comfort), I'm inclined it's more oriented towards comfort than performance - and might be a headache to change out for higher performance shocks if it's tied to the ECU

ZF hasn't produced that many high performance shocks that I'm aware of. Their BRZ monotube was pretty so-so from my trusted partners opinions

 

[tacthecat]

205 hp wow, that's it??

Ummm - This may be why:
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/...-to-keep-you-out-of-the-shop/#ftag=CAD590a51e

Will be interesting if the 1.5 or the drive-train is goint to be an issue.

 

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