HONDA FULL SYNTHETIC or ULTIMATE FULL Synthetic? What do you recommend?

[dallasjhawk]

Try using 87 octane, you will find your car runs just as good, exactly the same....save your money, or waste it, your choice, I don't really care,

If your car isn't running correctly on 87 octane, 93 octane isn't going to correct your problems

you're so wrong and it not even funny. My car will run completely different if I put 87 in it. Itll be slow and sluggish from all the timing that will be pulled. Anyhow, Im wasting my time with someone who clearly has no idea what he is talking about. Continue in your blissfully ignorant world. The rest of the big boys will continue to educate the community with facts

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[dallasjhawk]

I have worked as an auto shop MANAGER for many years,

I know more about cars then you will in your entire lifetime,

And unlike yourself, I learned from, and was taught by TRAINED PROFESSIONALS, not by reading nonsense and misinformation that has been spammed all over the internet by people like yourself,

clearly not as you are too stupid to realize this conversation has gone completely over your head. If you knew anything about tuning you would know exactly why Im running 93 and why its a benefit for me and the community in general. But yay "trained professional" Speaking of professionals, I've spoken to multiple professionals many times about the benefits of 5w-30 oil and 93 octane fuel and all them contradict you. So either keep up with the conversation or stop talking. By completely disregarding everything I have said and shown you as facts, you are about to be the first person Ive ever had to block here. Congrats

 

[baldheadracing]

Try using 87 octane, you will find your car runs just as good, exactly the same.<snip>

If your car isn't running correctly on 87 octane, 93 octane isn't going to correct your problems

Only the second sentence is true (in a new car).

The first sentence has been proven false for the 1.5l turbo-charged direct-injected engines used in the CivicX. The engines will run on 87 octane; but will run differently on higher octanes. Note that I'm not saying that the gain in power is 'better' or 'worth it' - that's a value judgement for each person to make; hence "differently." If you don't notice a difference, that doesn't mean that the difference doesn't exist.

In other cars or other engines - well, without knowledge of how a specific engine management system will work, the sweeping generalization may well be true more often than not. However, that specific knowledge is known here.

 

[dallasjhawk]

Only the second sentence is true (in a new car).

Well actually that depends. If the car is knocking on 87, switching to 93 should help

 

[Jervic]

DIY: I shaked container few times to mix it.I fallowed what the oil cap said-0W-20.when on sale/rebates,last time QS synthetic oil was on sale at Menards at 2.99 of couse to sent out rebate form.

 

[gadgetball]

Give you better protection in the heat and hard driving of the summer and not come out of the engine looking like water after 5000 miles. And its not going to hurt your mpgs that you are wasting gas.

Dallas did you switch to something heavier than 0w20? How has it worked for you? I have both a 2017 Accord 2.4L and 2016 Civic 2.0L and live in Atlanta metro (very hot/humid for most of the year. Hardly ever gets below 20F).
I currently run 0W20 NAPA full synthetic API SP-rated

 

[BoxsterSteve]

That's not dirt. It is probably an additive that settled out; that happens all the time. Pennzoil just has a light-coloured bottle so you see it.

This.
Some of additive pack settling out.
I‘ve seen this myself on previous oil changes and read in on BITOG as well.

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