HONDA EARTH DREAMS ENGINE LAWSUIT FILED FOR CR-VS AND CIVICS

[Civic_Scott]

Earth Dream Engine, never heard of that before. Wonder if we can get in on it?

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/honda-earth-dreams-engine-lawsuit-cr-v-civic.shtml

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[CosmicX]

They list the 1.5, 2.0, and 2.4 liter Direct Injection engines as problematic, but my 2.0 is not DI. I wonder if I should worry? Just hit 80000 miles this morning, with no oil related issues (that I am aware of).

 

[Micah]

Relevant thread - https://www.civicx.com/threads/oil-analysis-database.21607/

There are multiple owners having oil analysis performed. I am not aware of any reporting a significant amount of fuel dilution.

Also the article you linked appears to be for a personal lawsuit and not a class action lawsuit. No?

 

[Lazylahma]

Second paragraph states it’s a proposed class action, guess I’ll be keeping tabs on what’s going on with this

 

[jred721]

Why does the lawsuit filed for 2.0 and 2.4 engines when only the 1.5 is having those oil dilution issues? And as someone above said, the 2.0 in our civics isn't DI...

 

[AndreyL]

Guess it’s time to get an oil analysis done...

 

[baldheadracing]

They list the 1.5, 2.0, and 2.4 liter Direct Injection engines as problematic, but my 2.0 is not DI. I wonder if I should worry? Just hit 80000 miles this morning, with no oil related issues (that I am aware of).

The 2.0l Earth Dreams engine in the Civic Type R has direct injection.

 

[hobby-man]

They list the 1.5, 2.0, and 2.4 liter Direct Injection engines as problematic, but my 2.0 is not DI. I wonder if I should worry? Just hit 80000 miles this morning, with no oil related issues (that I am aware of).

Why does the lawsuit filed for 2.0 and 2.4 engines when only the 1.5 is having those oil dilution issues? And as someone above said, the 2.0 in our civics isn't DI...

The 2.0 NA isn't direct injected?? Did not know that. What is it? Sequential port?

 

[Design]

The limited UOAs we have available all suggest these motors are doing just fine. There is definitely fuel in the oil - an expected side effect of DI. But nothing to suggest it's breaking down oil viscosity to dangerously low levels. Even those with FD readings over 5% aren't seeing unusually low viscosity or a noticeable increase in wear metals. When the crankcase is cold, excess fuel vapor is known to settle into the oil and drive up readings. But during normal operation, it should be siphoned and burned off via the PCV/oil separator.

The lawsuit suggests something else is going on with that case. Possibly a faulty injector (which has been reported before).

 

[joecin]

I believe 1.5L owners in cold climates have more dilution issues.

 

[hobby-man]

I believe 1.5L owners in cold climates have more dilution issues.

I think this only matters if you also drive very short distances and don't allow the engine to hit operating temps. Even if the climate is cold, I don't see why that would matter if the engine is hot.

 

[jred721]

The 2.0 NA isn't direct injected?? Did not know that. What is it? Sequential port?

Yup. All K20C2 engines are port injection.

 

[dc2turbo]

I think this only matters if you also drive very short distances and don't allow the engine to hit operating temps. Even if the climate is cold, I don't see why that would matter if the engine is hot.

my drives are 2miles every day and my oil reeked of gas at 60% oil meter in the winter

 

[thatbvictor]

my drives are 2miles every day and my oil reeked of gas at 60% oil meter in the winter

I live in S Wisconsin, and if I only drove 2 miles I'd purposely drive a longer route home to get the engine up to operating temps and hold them for longer.

 

[joecin]

I think this only matters if you also drive very short distances and don't allow the engine to hit operating temps. Even if the climate is cold, I don't see why that would matter if the engine is hot.

True.
I've read of CR-V owners in cold climates having issues. Short trips are much longer with the 1.5L. It takes a while to warm up in very cold weather.I've also read of some CR-V 1.5L owners seeing the engine temp gauge dropping at long stop lights.

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