Honda AC Low Pressure Different Plug

[fmcs]

Has anyone tried to charge your AC using a redtek kit or any other kit?
Did you guys notice that the universal freon kits don't plug into the 2016 model?

Any adaptors known?

Thank you.

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[zroger73]

Why are you attempting to add refrigerant to your A/C system? Is yours not cooling well and your warranty has expired?

The 2016-current Civic uses R-1234yf refrigerant which is far more expensive than the R-134a that was used from 1994-2015. R-1234yf is not commonly available and now requires a license to purchase in cylinders. If you look long enough, you can find cans of it for about $60 each compared to $6 a can for R-134a. R-1234yf systems use different fittings than R-134a systems.

 

[erbee]

Why are you attempting to add refrigerant to your A/C system? Is yours not cooling well and your warranty has expired?

The 2016-current Civic uses R-1234yf refrigerant which is far more expensive than the R-134a that was used from 1994-2015. R-1234yf is not commonly available and now requires a license to purchase in cylinders. If you look long enough, you can find cans of it for about $60 each compared to $6 a can for R-134a. R-1234yf systems use different fittings than R-134a systems.

refrigerant has shorter warranty terms IIRC. In the books

 

[zroger73]

refrigerant has shorter warranty terms IIRC. In the books

My 2006 Honda Accord used R-134a. From its warranty booklet:

"This New Vehicle Limited Warranty Does Not Cover:

Air conditioner refrigerant charge after the first year, unless required as part of a warranty repair."

My 2018 Honda Accord uses R-1234yf. From its warranty booklet:

"Limited Warranty Coverage

Air conditioner refrigerant is covered for the first 2 years or 24,000 miles, whichever comes first, unless required as part of a warranty repair."

Obviously, Honda has increased the length of the refrigerant warranty over time whether or not it's due to the newer refrigerant.

 

[fmcs]

Why are you attempting to add refrigerant to your A/C system? Is yours not cooling well and your warranty has expired?

The 2016-current Civic uses R-1234yf refrigerant which is far more expensive than the R-134a that was used from 1994-2015. R-1234yf is not commonly available and now requires a license to purchase in cylinders. If you look long enough, you can find cans of it for about $60 each compared to $6 a can for R-134a. R-1234yf systems use different fittings than R-134a systems.

I was trying to do it myself, but now i understood that its requires a different system. I was used to those redtek jjits, do it yourself, I guess i am stuck to the dealer. Thank you.

 

[CrippleRipple]

Zrogers is correct.

The new refrigerates are expensive and require my EPA license to acquire. I really wish they'd made it illegal to sell these small kits too, stop all this confusion. They don't sell home top off kits for a reason.

I would not use those cheap kits from the parts store. You have no idea what is going on in the system or with pressures.

Need someone with a set of gauges and who can diagnosis. If Honda won't help anybody who can run an A/C machine can do it, damn near plug & play for a technician now a days.

We always use to warranty 3yr/36k any A/C work too. Is Honda really pulling back the warranty?

 

[fmcs]

Zrogers is correct.

The new refrigerates are expensive and require my EPA license to acquire. I really wish they'd made it illegal to sell these small kits too, stop all this confusion. They don't sell home top off kits for a reason.

I would not use those cheap kits from the parts store. You have no idea what is going on in the system or with pressures.

Need someone with a set of gauges and who can diagnosis. If Honda won't help anybody who can run an A/C machine can do it, damn near plug & play for a technician now a days.

We always use to warranty 3yr/36k any A/C work too. Is Honda really pulling back the warranty?

No.. they said it was a rock that hit the condenser.. not covered under warranty.

 

[CrippleRipple]

No.. they said it was a rock that hit the condenser.. not covered under warranty.

Yep.....any physical damage is?
Not Honda's fault, I was speaking to a failure or leak not caused by physical damage.
Honda use to be 3yr/36k on AC, why I asked if they are pulling even the mechanical/warrantable stuff back.

 

[CivicChina]

i was VERY happy when i found that my car is still using the good old R134a!

 

[zroger73]

Yep.....any physical damage is?
Not Honda's fault, I was speaking to a failure or leak not caused by physical damage.
Honda use to be 3yr/36k on AC, why I asked if they are pulling even the mechanical/warrantable stuff back.

The physical components of the A/C system such as the compressor, evaporator, condensor, and lines are covered for 3/36, but the refrigerant itself is only covered for 2/24 unless refrigerant is required as part of a covered repair involving of the components covered for 3/36. In other words, if you had a very slow leak or a leak source that couldn't be identified, Honda will only pay for the cost of refrigerant for 2/24. However, if your engine had to be replaced under warranty and refrigerant had to be recovered and recharged as part of the process, it would be covered.

 

[CrippleRipple]

The physical components of the A/C system such as the compressor, evaporator, condensor, and lines are covered for 3/36, but the refrigerant itself is only covered for 2/24 unless refrigerant is required as part of a covered repair involving of the components covered for 3/36. In other words, if you had a very slow leak or a leak source that couldn't be identified, Honda will only pay for the cost of refrigerant for 2/24. However, if your engine had to be replaced under warranty and refrigerant had to be recovered and recharged as part of the process, it would be covered.

Gotcha!

Appreciate it sir!

 

[solar]

I’m guessing your AC isn’t blowing cold ? If so there can be other reasons for this, clogged condenser or evaporator, defective compressor, issue with the orfice tube, etc. I was a ASE AC tech back in the day, and we would get complaints from customers that their AC wasn’t blowing cold. A lot of times it had to do with the weather being hotter, a car that’s been sitting in the sun will take a much longer time to cool down, plus if you have a dark colored car and no tint on the windows it will take a while for the system to cool the cabin. Stick a thermometer in the cabin vent and set the AC to high with the recirculating on, if it’s blowing under 50 degrees than there’s nothing wrong with it.

R1234yf systems are a new beast, and you need proprietary service connections to fit the car, plus the new rule is R1234yf can’t just be “topped off”. If there’s a leak the leak needs to be repaired and the system needs to be evacuated and recharged.

 

[conbrio]

DO NOT use Redtek. It will put hydrocarbons in your AC lines and you will need to get that all evacuated before any Honda dealership will even touch your AC system.

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