Hands on with TSP's Stage 1 tune for the 1.5T (non-Si)

[SilverArrow]

I changed 4/5 gas station, 95 and 100 octanes, but i have knock control very high yet.

Today also i saw 1.00, after a WOT in 4/5.

I don't know what to think...

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[varge]

I changed 4/5 gas station, 95 and 100 octanes, but i have knock control very high yet.

Today also i saw 1.00, after a WOT in 4/5.

I don't know what to think...

Do you have a log file of this ?

 

[SilverArrow]

Yes. Want you them in private message?

 

[kytos]

I changed 4/5 gas station, 95 and 100 octanes, but i have knock control very high yet.

Today also i saw 1.00, after a WOT in 4/5.

I don't know what to think...

That's very common with the heat in hot weather and heatsoaked intercooler. Better gas will help but it isn't a miracle. Also keep in mind artificial knock control rise past 5300 RPM.

I changed 3 petrol pumps, but before 4000 rpm it didn't push, it was slow, it lacked aggressiveness, all when I updated the tuning with version 1.9.7. I thought it was petrol because of the very high ignition delay, but when I updated everything went back to the way it was, now it goes like a missele

Im running 1.9.7 just fine. Than may be variation of weather conditions.

 

[SilverArrow]

I don't understand this:

"Also keep in mind artificial knock control rise past 5300 RPM."

do you have the same problem?

 

[kytos]

I don't understand this:

"Also keep in mind artificial knock control rise past 5300 RPM."

do you have the same problem?

Non-SI ecus rise the knock control past that RPM. This is by design, said by @KTuner and Derek Robinson

 

[SilverArrow]

Ok, but what is the risk? A cut of power only?

 

[gtman]

Knock control will rise dramatically in a non-Si after a WOT run to redline. Combine that with hot ambient temps and seeing it rise to 1.0, although high, isn't shocking.

Knock control is there to protect the engine and will rise under load, with hot temps and/or lower octane gas. It's just dialing back timing as a safety measure.

As long as K.C. drops down and stabilizes I wouldn't worry too much about it. As a general rule, I don't run my car really hard in hot weather due to heat soak.

 

[kytos]

Ok, but what is the risk? A cut of power only?

No risk, is there to protect the engine, tho I think is a bit supid way.

 

[gtman]

No risk, is there to protect the engine, tho I think is a bit supid way.

Honda tends to go overboard in terms of reliability. But I agree, I think they could have implemented it a bit better.

 

[varge]

I think that kc around 1 is way too much and if it happens more than once in every few wot pulls it means you are pushing it too hard. I run a pretty aggressive custom tune with 232whp and I rarely see more than 0.7
I even have a 60-200km/h log and it hardly raises to .69

@SilverArrow you may upload it here or send me via private message.

 

[kytos]

As a general rule, I don't run my car really hard in hot weather due to heat soak.

That's why im running an upgraded intercooler. Also if not using the A/C and you push the engine hard enough for a few minutes the thermostat/radiator wont open until past 103/5 ºC that will cause a little bit more knock.

 

[SilverArrow]

So, i will have a cut of power only. It's right?

 

[kytos]

I think that kc around 1 is way too much and if it happens more than once in every few wot pulls it means you are pushing it too hard. I run a pretty aggressive custom tune with 232whp and I rarely see more than 0.7
I even have a 60-200km/h log and it hardly raises to .69

@SilverArrow you may upload it here or send me via private message.

A 3rd + 4th WOT pull, with warm weather changing gear up to the rev limiter will make it easily land in 0.7 to 1.0 territory..

 

[kytos]

So, i will have a cut of power only. It's right?

Yes.

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