FlashPro - Artificial Knock Elimination

[procivic]

Many of you might not be aware of some of the cool new features Hondata has been developing: https://www.hondata.com/technical-information-hondata-l15-turbo-civic-tuning

The Artificial Knock elimination for the base (non-Si) models is a big one. Worth an extra 18+ horsepower!

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[gtman]

I have to say, that is a huge development.

I use KTuner and it's frustrating seeing kc shoot up anytime I go above 5200 rpm or so.

That's a great new feature for non-Si Flashpro users. Probably one of the most useful tune adjustments I can think of.

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[D-RobIMW]

The Artificial Knock elimination for the base (non-Si) models is a big one. Worth an extra 18+ horsepower!

Misleading text is misleading

 

[gtman]

I think they mean you keep that power above 5200 rpm compared to cars having the factory knock control strategy that automatically pulls timing up top. Correct?

I definitely prefer keeping those horses versus losing them above 5200 like I currently do.

Actually Derek, I read your blog post (great read btw) that listed this feature as a good one for Hondata:

For non-Si L15 Civics, Hondata allows for disabling of the artificial 'forced rise' in knock control value above 5,000rpm or so. This changes the knock control logic to behave more like the Civic Si (reactive mainly to actual knock sensor activity).

Hopefully KTuner is working on something similar.

 

[hobby-man]

This is really cool. Aside from the artificial knock, what other differences are there in the Si ECU programming?

 

[WhiskeyTango]

Matter of fact Derek, I read your blog that listed this feature as a big plus for Hondata. Hopefully KTuner is working on something similar.

link?

 

[gtman]

link?

Here ya go..

https://www.imwtuned.com/blog/what-to-choose

 

[disgraced.fk8]

Dude!!!! This is huge!!! My 19 sport touring was brutal, puts you up at .62 shortly after that 5000rpm. drastically kills the power.

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[hobby-man]

I think they mean you keep that power above 5200 rpm compared to cars having the factory knock control strategy that automatically pulls timing up top. Correct?

I definitely prefer keeping those horses versus losing them above 5200 like I currently do.

Actually Derek, I read your blog post (great read btw) that listed this feature as a good one for Hondata:

Hopefully KTuner is working on something similar.

When Hondata releases a feature set, is it live for all supported ECUs at the same time? That's really my only gripe with KTuner.

 

[jayy_swish]

When Hondata releases a feature set, is it live for all supported ECUs at the same time? That's really my only gripe with KTuner.

Usually, from experience, as long as it’s included in the software update and your ECU falls under the supported window it releases for all

 

[gtman]

When Hondata releases a feature set, is it live for all supported ECUs at the same time? That's really my only gripe with KTuner.

Based on when I had Hondata, yes that's how they do it like Jay said.

Dude!!!! This is huge!!! My 19 sport touring was brutal, puts you up at .62 shortly after that 5000rpm. drastically kills the power.
TUNING WARS BABY

This new improvement alone will have a lot of non-Si guys seriouly considering jumping ship. I mean, I love KTuner but this is a total game changer. And it's available NOW.

I can't tell you how many times i'm driving along at a blissful .49 and one hard press of the throttle to the floor jumps it up 20 points and power is GONE. I always thought that was nuts especially knowing Si guys weren't dealing with that behavior.

This is actually the most exciting new development (to me, anyway) I've seen since I've tuned.

 

[hobby-man]

This new improvement alone will have a lot of non-Si guys seriouly considering jumping ship. I mean, I love KTuner but this is a total game changer. And it's available NOW.

I can't tell you how many times i'm driving along at a blissful .49 and one hard press of the throttle to the floor jumps it up 20 points and power is GONE. I always thought that was nuts especially knowing Si guys weren't dealing with that behavior.

This is actually the most exciting new development (to me, anyway) I've seen since I've tuned.

That's kind of why I was asking lol. Given the L15B7 swap is proceeding, I honestly toyed with the idea of trying to implement an Si ECU while we're in there. But if the major difference between the base and Si ECUs is knock control, this could be a much easier solution.

 

[procivic]

Dude!!!! This is huge!!! My 19 sport touring was brutal, puts you up at .62 shortly after that 5000rpm. drastically kills the power.

TUNING WARS BABY

Yeah I suspect HB Sport owners will really benefit from this. The manual trans is not as torque limited.

 

[procivic]

When Hondata releases a feature set, is it live for all supported ECUs at the same time? That's really my only gripe with KTuner.

Yes, should be live for all non-Si 1.5T ECUs.

 

[arnoldo]

This new improvement alone will have a lot of non-Si guys seriouly considering jumping ship. I mean, I love KTuner but this is a total game changer. And it's available NOW.

I can't tell you how many times i'm driving along at a blissful .49 and one hard press of the throttle to the floor jumps it up 20 points and power is GONE. I always thought that was nuts especially knowing Si guys weren't dealing with that behavior.

This is actually the most exciting new development (to me, anyway) I've seen since I've tuned.

I believe KTuner is working on something right now. Unfortunately new features only available to full support ECU most of the time. I can see tons of KTuner users with partial support ECU jump ship to Hondata.

I had a bad experience with Hondata torque limiter for the CVT when I swapped my stock turbo with CR-V/SI turbo. I couldn't hit 22 PSI even after I changed the limiter to 500 nm. Weird it doesn't affect my friend's car with the same ECU ID. The problem is solved after I jumped ship to KTuner.

Another thing, Hondata modifications only offers 1 option (i.e: Better Turbo Response, Throttel Response) with no level of preset customization like Quick Adjustments. So, I think I would stick with KTuner for the Quick Adjustments.

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