Event Data Recorder (EDR)

[Night Fury]

As soon as you open the owner's guide, you can see the info. about it. Basically it says the EDR will record crash or near like situations and share it if necessary with law enforcement

Which made think: when gettin' tuned! Are we getting flagged at the dealer?

Thoughts??

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[jdmorangefever]

Ya i wondered if honda does that? Audi does.. we do online module spec check and if tuned it will immediately upload it to vehicle data page.. even some tuners say it wont be detected.. still does

 

[zroger73]

There are actually two "black boxes".

One of them is called the EDR (Event Data Recorder) mentioned above which records 30-seconds or less of a limited number of items during certain crash or near-crash situations.

The other is called an SDR (Service Diagnostic Recorder). It's built in to the ECU and is the one that can "get ya".

"Service Diagnostic Recorders
This vehicle is equipped with service-related devices that record information about powertrain performance. The data can be used to verify emissions law requirements and/or help technicians diagnose and solve service problems. It may also be combined with data from other sources for research purposes, but it remains confidential. Some diagnostic and maintenance information is uploaded to Honda upon vehicle start up." - 2017 Civic Owner's Manual

 

[teebee288]

Which made think: when gettin' tuned! Are we getting flagged at the dealer?

yes my friend, if you flash your ecu, now on this platform your done. Beleive me i just swap an l15b7 in a sport model that come's with an l15ba because they saw everything in the ecu even if you flash back to stock.
Now freeze data registered, peak turbo boost, peak rpm and speed and they even saw my ecu was flashed 7 time, and dont forget if you did a reflash, you erase all the loggs in the ecu, so if you go to dealer and they see no loggs, you will past an interview with the dealer manager, lol. But for me they send two ingeneer from toronto to look at the data. Dealer have wireless obd tool that connect with honda canada and they send data via Internet. Mine is blown cause of an over rev, not a tune, but they denied warranty because they saw i played in the ecu. like i said in a other topic, i was a hard defender of the fact that dealer can't see nothing if you flash back to stock but now things have change.

Good info to have: you can swap an l15ba to an l15b7, ecu recognize eveything, only minor anti theft mode problem, now solve. Engine cost 1500$ i did the swap with my friend, so 500$ of liquides and gasket, total 2000$.
Honda want to bill me 10 000$ for the engine without labor!

 

[Dr_Drache]

yes my friend, if you flash your ecu, now on this platform your done. Beleive me i just swap an l15b7 in a sport model that come's with an l15ba because they saw everything in the ecu even if you flash back to stock.
Now freeze data registered, peak turbo boost, peak rpm and speed and they even saw my ecu was flashed 7 time, and dont forget if you did a reflash, you erase all the loggs in the ecu, so if you go to dealer and they see no loggs, you will past an interview with the dealer manager, lol. But for me they send two ingeneer from toronto to look at the data. Dealer have wireless obd tool that connect with honda canada and they send data via Internet. Mine is blown cause of an over rev, not a tune, but they denied warranty because they saw i played in the ecu. like i said in a other topic, i was a hard defender of the fact that dealer can't see nothing if you flash back to stock but now things have change.

Good info to have: you can swap an l15ba to an l15b7, ecu recognize eveything, only minor anti theft mode problem, now solve. Engine cost 1500$ i did the swap with my friend, so 500$ of liquides and gasket, total 2000$.
Honda want to bill me 10 000$ for the engine without labor!

I'd have to get this corroborated, both Hondata and Ktuner, as well as various honda Tuners (I think VitTuned said something on this)claim otherwise. they can see it's been reset but that's it, the rest is gleaned from social engineering (AKA you admitted to it, or something that would have to have a flashed ECU to do) and overrev? should look at your tuning

 

[IamMrRoy]

Sounds good, bro.

 

[Dr_Drache]

^corroborated

fixed... I knew i was messing something up! PROPS!

 

[teebee288]

I'd have to get this corroborated, both Hondata and Ktuner, as well as various honda Tuners (I think VitTuned said something on this)claim otherwise. they can see it's been reset but that's it, the rest is gleaned from social engineering (AKA you admitted to it, or something that would have to have a flashed ECU to do) and overrev? should look at your tuning

Over rev cause by a miss shift not relate to a tune, you can't over rev with hondata, and i got a tons of pm with doug from hondata, so ask him and he will tell the same thing as me. Me and doug collaborate on unlocking some ecu for flashpro. So a i got A LOT of info coming from him.
An ex coworker who now working at honda dealer tell me that hfp will collaborate with hondata to release a +3 tune that will be covered on warranty, but time will tell if it's true.
Cheer

 

[dallasjhawk]

I would love to see if this is true. The over rev is what killed you with, Seen so many over rev stories end with Honda denying the warranty claim. It had nothing to do with being tuned.

 

[dallasjhawk]

yes my friend, if you flash your ecu, now on this platform your done. Beleive me i just swap an l15b7 in a sport model that come's with an l15ba because they saw everything in the ecu even if you flash back to stock.
Now freeze data registered, peak turbo boost, peak rpm and speed and they even saw my ecu was flashed 7 time, and dont forget if you did a reflash, you erase all the loggs in the ecu, so if you go to dealer and they see no loggs, you will past an interview with the dealer manager, lol. But for me they send two ingeneer from toronto to look at the data. Dealer have wireless obd tool that connect with honda canada and they send data via Internet. Mine is blown cause of an over rev, not a tune, but they denied warranty because they saw i played in the ecu. like i said in a other topic, i was a hard defender of the fact that dealer can't see nothing if you flash back to stock but now things have change.

Good info to have: you can swap an l15ba to an l15b7, ecu recognize eveything, only minor anti theft mode problem, now solve. Engine cost 1500$ i did the swap with my friend, so 500$ of liquides and gasket, total 2000$.
Honda want to bill me 10 000$ for the engine without labor!

You need to clarify that your claim was not denied because you flashed the ECU but rather because you over revved the car on a misshift which will get your warranty claimed denied every time.

 

[GSquared]

You need to clarify that your claim was not denied because you flashed the ECU but rather because you over revved the car on a misshift which will get your warranty claimed denied every time.

Will they deny claims for not abiding by the break-in period as well? Does this log (I'm not doing this, but) stuff like if you are redlining it any chance you get (no overrevving)?

I am also interested in seeing if this denial due to flashes is true. I thought that was half of Hondata's selling point was that dealers didn't detect it if you flashed to stock?

 

[dc2turbo]

yes my friend, if you flash your ecu, now on this platform your done. Beleive me i just swap an l15b7 in a sport model that come's with an l15ba because they saw everything in the ecu even if you flash back to stock.
Now freeze data registered, peak turbo boost, peak rpm and speed and they even saw my ecu was flashed 7 time, and dont forget if you did a reflash, you erase all the loggs in the ecu, so if you go to dealer and they see no loggs, you will past an interview with the dealer manager, lol. But for me they send two ingeneer from toronto to look at the data. Dealer have wireless obd tool that connect with honda canada and they send data via Internet. Mine is blown cause of an over rev, not a tune, but they denied warranty because they saw i played in the ecu. like i said in a other topic, i was a hard defender of the fact that dealer can't see nothing if you flash back to stock but now things have change.

Good info to have: you can swap an l15ba to an l15b7, ecu recognize eveything, only minor anti theft mode problem, now solve. Engine cost 1500$ i did the swap with my friend, so 500$ of liquides and gasket, total 2000$.
Honda want to bill me 10 000$ for the engine without labor!

what was the mirror anti theft mode problem and solution? for future reference for others that does a swap

 

[dallasjhawk]

Will they deny claims for not abiding by the break-in period as well? Does this log (I'm not doing this, but) stuff like if you are redlining it any chance you get (no overrevving)?

I am also interested in seeing if this denial due to flashes is true. I thought that was half of Hondata's selling point was that dealers didn't detect it if you flashed to stock?

They can deny for lots of things but they cant make it up, your intake wont void your warranty on your paint etc. but if I can be proven its related....i use Ktuner at my own risk. Ill always flash stock to go in for oil changes etc, no reason they need to know but if i throw a rod or blow an engine you know damn well Honda is going to bring in the big dogs to see what happened if I try to warranty it

 

[tacthecat]

As they should - "You break it, you bought it."

 

[teebee288]

what was the mirror anti theft mode problem and solution? for future reference for others that does a swap

In the car with the key, Hold lock button on the key remote for 5 sec, than after the bip, get out of the car with the key and take the key far away of the car (like 30feet) for 10 min, and then unlock the car and anti theft mode is now shutt off.

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