Does your 2nd gear ever grind?

[das borgen]

I applaud you - it's important to have dreams. No matter how unrealistic.

As an FYI, CVTs were banned from most racing because they're too good. You can hold peak torque and just vary continuously your gearing to put max power down the most efficiently (best gas mileage); all while not having to wait for a shift to finish before continuing to put power down. That's a triple-win there.

The CVT in the Civics obviously isn't strong enough for more power, but by concept, I'd take a CVT for racing any day over any other transmission

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[tehSteve]

The CVT in the Civics obviously isn't strong enough for more power, but by concept, I'd take a CVT for racing any day over any other transmission

What kind of racing? With the Civic Si, youre gonna be slow one way or another. You minus will increase the fun factor and stay with manual.

 

[das borgen]

What kind of racing? With the Civic Si, youre gonna be slow one way or another. You minus will increase the fun factor and stay with manual.

It doesn't matter the form of racing. Faster = better.
But to answer your question, I'd take a CVT over a manual for road racing, drag racing, autocrossing, hill climb racing, rallying, etc

Formula 1, World Endurance Championship both banned CVTs because they were too good

 

[BoostedSiCoupe]

cvt = faster than manual
cvt =/= funner than manual

 

[Deleted member]

A Slushbox that can beat your manual any day, any time

They will eventually be able to make self driving race cars that will be faster than Schumacher was. Like CVT, it would be incredibly boring compared to the real thing.

A car that never had any intention of being a fun to drive car but has a stick shift will always be more fun to drive than a fast CVT car.

 

[luispe7]

@davemarco I have Acuity shifter base bushings, centering spring, and cable bushings installed but I'm not impressed by their performance. It does feel more solid and notchier if anything but I was trying to get rid of the crunch you get in 2nd gear especially. Do you think the Alta cable lockdown will eliminate this? if so, how much is their price? i went to their website and they don't have a price listed for it. Is there any other brand besides Alta that makes this?

 

[MGZ]

I think it was around $72 + shipping. Total came to $92. Customer service was great, had an issue with the first lockdown they sent me and they sent a new one pretty quickly.

The alta piece will solve the issue 90% of the time and significantly dulls the crunchiness when it does happen. Other route would probably be what acuity did which involves drilling through your shifter assembly and securing the cable housing with zip ties

 

[davemarco]

@davemarco I have Acuity shifter base bushings, centering spring, and cable bushings installed but I'm not impressed by their performance. It does feel more solid and notchier if anything but I was trying to get rid of the crunch you get in 2nd gear especially. Do you think the Alta cable lockdown will eliminate this? if so, how much is their price? i went to their website and they don't have a price listed for it. Is there any other brand besides Alta that makes this?

I think that the Alta lockdown was $70. Not sure how much it helped, now that it's been a while. I can say that installing the Type R shifter assembly, the bushings, the heavier Type R knob, and the lockdown together have given me the best version of the shifter yet. The crunch is still there, but it's different now. Maybe it's the shorter throw, but it feels like more of a notchy rumble at the end range of 2nd and 4th now. The frequency of perfect buttery shifts has gone up as well - I only get rumbly 2nd gear shifts if I pull diagonally. If I deliberately pull straight, it's perfectly smooth.

At this point, I think that the tendency for "crunch" or "rumble" when not shifting perfectly in a straight line is a function of the shifter cables themselves. The combo that I have is a pretty good compromise though.

 

[BoostedSiCoupe]

does anyone else have issues with downshifts into 2nd, especially when hell toeing into 2nd?

almost since ive had it it has been notchy downshifting into 2nd, and i can feel the synchro spinning still if i down shift at 3500+

 

[davemarco]

No issues downshifting into second.

FYI all - I removed my Alta lockdown and the Type R knob in preparation for getting a Type R (when I locate one at MSRP, I wanted to be ready to go). I left on the Type R shifter assembly and all the Acuity bushings. With just the loss of the heavier knob and the Alta lockdown, my shifter got insanely crunchy again.

In summary: for anyone just looking to remove crunch, don't bother with the Acuity parts. Instead, get a heavy shift knob and the Alta lockdown.

 

[BoostedSiCoupe]

No issues downshifting into second.

FYI all - I removed my Alta lockdown and the Type R knob in preparation for getting a Type R (when I locate one at MSRP, I wanted to be ready to go). I left on the Type R shifter assembly and all the Acuity bushings. With just the loss of the heavier knob and the Alta lockdown, my shifter got insanely crunchy again.

In summary: for anyone just looking to remove crunch, don't bother with the Acuity parts. Instead, get a heavy shift knob and the Alta lockdown.

wait.... the alta lockdown cable reduced notchyness? not just the double clicks into the even gears as it was designed to do?

 

[davemarco]

wait.... the alta lockdown cable reduced notchyness? not just the double clicks into the even gears as it was designed to do?

The Alta and the heavier knob together reduced crunchiness. As in, pulling for 2nd felt like pulling into a bag of gravel. Shifts slotted more precisely into gear. I didn't have a short shift kit, so I never had a double click.

 

[BoostedSiCoupe]

The Alta and the heavier knob together reduced crunchiness. As in, pulling for 2nd felt like pulling into a bag of gravel. Shifts slotted more precisely into gear. I didn't have a short shift kit, so I never had a double click.

a lot of us who experience the double click dont have the short shift kit.

 

[fiend busa]

Nope, but sometimes my shifter comes out of 2nd when shifting into and my gears grind hard lol

 

[davemarco]

a lot of us who experience the double click dont have the short shift kit.

The double click, as described by Pawwining, was specific to short shift kits. It sounds like you're describing the even gear crunch that a lot of SI owners are getting when stock.

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