do you trust the maintenance minder?

[mis3]

Zroger73: Thanks for the clarifications. Your last post should put all the oil change debates to rest!

Sponsored

 

[rushwal]

Wanna bet?

 

[amnesiac]

Continued horse beating.....where does it mention that Honda factory oil should not be changed early? I see no mention in the owner's manual nor on the Honda website. I only see forum comments or the brochure posted in this thread. I would think if it was so important it would at least be mentioned in the manual unless I am overlooking something. Just curious...

 

[CoopKill]

Continued horse beating.....where does it mention that Honda factory oil should not be changed early? I see no mention in the owner's manual nor on the Honda website. I only see forum comments or the brochure posted in this thread. I would think if it was so important it would at least be mentioned in the manual unless I am overlooking something. Just curious...

I spoke to 2 dealers at MM 40%, and both emphasized not to change it before 15%. In fact one of them refused to do the change stating if I was dead set on changing it I would need to do it myself, or an oil change place.

 

[MuffinMcFluffin]

So the MM is for having an oil change, not for putting more oil in your car (like from a gas station)? Do you still have to do the latter the ol' fashioned way by pulling out the stick and reading it?

 

[zroger73]

So the MM is for having an oil change, not for putting more oil in your car (like from a gas station)? Do you still have to do the latter the ol' fashioned way by pulling out the stick and reading it?

Yes. The car does not have an oil level sensor. It only knows two things about the oil: (1) How much oil life remains based on preprogrammed information and actual driving conditions and (2) whether or not there is sufficient oil pressure. If your oil level gets too low, there would be nothing for the oil pump to pump and you'd lose oil pressure causing your oil pressure light to come on.

The MM is there to remind you when scheduled maintenance is due. You're still responsible checking the oil level using the dipstick.

 

[9civic10]

If Honda is ,I am
I usually only do 5000k a year so I get an oil change once a year

 

[Akalawur77]

Don't forget that if you are running a tune/mods to do your maintenance on the earlier side

 

[kshawn]

My first mantinince reminder just came on. At 10k xD so factory oil has been in there for 10k miles. It didn't look bad when I did the change tho. Threw in amsoil 0w30

 

[integra15]

I am at around 6900 miles and 20% MM. No worries here. Will go in when it goes the next step lower. Not sure if that is 15 or 10%.

 

[CivicSi#38]

I'll throw my hat in on this one... I have read that the factory oil in fact is non-detergent. Is this accurate?

 

[CoopKill]

I'll throw my hat in on this one... I have read that the factory oil in fact is non-detergent. Is this accurate?

Just a guess, but it would make sense that the factory oil used when new from the dealer would have no additives, or detergents to allow the rings to seat. Similar to the recommendation of not using synthetic oil on a fresh rebuild as it prevent seating of the rings.

 

[zroger73]

When I attended a Ridgeline VIP plant tour in 2010, we were told by the vice president of Honda Manufacturing of Alabama that the factory fill was the same oil that they sold in quarts under the Honda brand. At the time, this oil was manufactured by ExxonMobil. The oil was stored in and dispensed from large tanks that were refilled by oil trucks on a daily basis. I saw other large tanks as well that held thousands of gallons of washer fluid, brake fluid, coolant, etc. When you manufacture almost 1,000 vehicles each day, you tend to use a lot of fluids!

The oil that Honda currently uses is manufactured by Phillips 66 according to the MSDS. A year or two ago, Honda discontinued their synthetic blend 0W-20 leaving only a full synthetic.

https://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMS...ter=**&MSDSTypeFilter=USDS&SearchValue=817725

 

[mis3]

When I attended a Ridgeline VIP plant tour in 2010, we were told by the vice president of Honda Manufacturing of Alabama that the factory fill was the same oil that they sold in quarts under the Honda brand. At the time, this oil was manufactured by ExxonMobil. The oil was stored in and dispensed from large tanks that were refilled by oil trucks on a daily basis.

I am surprised that a VP would know such details. Good for Honda!

 

[Chief 08]

I guess everyone thinks they know more than the engineers at honda.

Sponsored