Gruber
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- Mark
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Yes, it might be against some regulations, but there is absolutely no reason for 1234yf being restricted. You still can blow cans of brake cleaner as you like and buy huge tanks of propane-butane. This is the phenomenon of escalating idiotic regulations, when the actual reason for them becomes entirely lost.Absolutely technically true. I was trying to drive home the point. R134a has a Global Warming Potential rating of 1430 and is absolutely classified as a high global warming potential gas, though technically not "ozone depleting".
I wasn't really referring to R-1234yf - but R134a wasn't classified as harmful in 1995 either, so again, no fucking excuse. Absolutely. lol. And to further the point, it's still illegal to recharge leaking systems in many state and local jurisdictions and that includes R-1234yf.
Don't make excuses for people because I didn't happen to technically draw out every scenario. ?
First it was the "ozone hole." When the ozone hole argument fizzled out as ozone hole refrigerants were eliminated, they brought up "global warming," which is something entirely different, and even more doubtful.
So now, the newest auto AC refrigerant 1234yf is completely ozone safe, and global warming safe. Generally safer than anything else ever used in refrigeration on large scale. Yet, curiously, it's also the most restricted. You can't buy it in stores (while 134a is available in grocery stores and gas stations) and it has to be recovered at service shops.
My small refrigerator is filled with pentane. Pentane is highly flamable like butane. Using pentane in refrigerators is idiotic, because there are plenty of better, less crazy refrigerants.
It's all a money-making scheme that can be played successfully only thanks to general public's ignorance in these areas.
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