Clutch burned after 300 miles

[Sixers Ryan]

It looks like the clutch on 2020 is more fragile ( based on post here)... with my si 2017 I'm running tune since 2018 and this year tsp stage 1 map 3 and no issue at all with the clutch. I'm having 90k kilo on my car now . You should try to upgrade it if you have extra money and fix the problems for future. Next year I will be full bolt on with the downpipe so, I will upgrade it before make it slip. Well good luck with it. Its not normal if you didn't abuse it. You should go to an another dealer and look what they said.

Fragile would be an understatement... there is no way they can be built like this. They must have faulty parts. I'll be in touch when I hear more from the dealership. Thanks guys!

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[therealdede]

Fragile would be an understatement... there is no way they can be built like this. They must have faulty parts. I'll be in touch when I hear more from the dealership. Thanks guys!

2020’s do have a different flywheel. The 17-19 flywheel costs $1,200 from Honda, while the one for the 2020 costs $600 and has a different part number. Clutch disk, pressure plate and throw out are all the same.

 

[Stratuss]

So 3 months ago I traded in my 17 ex-t coupe for a 20 Si Sedan.
After 316 miles of light driving my clutch burned out. I know what you're thinking, but this is not my first manual. I've been driving manuals since my 1992 peugeot 106 (Google it).
I had the car towed into my local dealer and they determined that it was my responsibility for burning out the clutch..
Now mind you, this is in the middle of covid-19 and Honda declined to send out a specialist to look at the car. Rather, instead of paying the whole $2600, they're only charging me with $400 (this is also my 4th Honda in as many years, I leased a pilot and an odyssey as the fam wagon, so they where being courteous).
I know what you all are thinking, I'm an idiot that doesn't know how to drive a mani, but I promise I do, so please be easy on me. Even if I didn't drive 100% perfectly, it shouldn't die out after 300 miles! Driving instructors don't replace their clutches after 300 miles!
What else could this be?
What else should I look out for?
I have a feeling they're going to take me on a test drive when I pick up the car tomorrow, what should I pay attention to?
Anybody have similar issues?
Is there something else that would cause this issue?

I'm actually kinda shocked that this happened to you but I honestly think your method in driving stick might have been the cause. My Si is my first personal manual transmission & I am currently at 32K miles with no issues. I've done every single bad thing you could do to a clutch & it's still going. Im rarely on the clutch unless I'm shifting. I never hold it during a traffic light or during a turn. I think you should look into a better method that won't burn it out so fast.

 

[2020CivicSI]

My 2020 has over 17k and the clutch has been fine. You might have gotten a lemon

Hopefully Honda does it right and honors the warranty.

 

[tacthecat]

CDV has been around since at least the 8th gen Civic - the S2000 had them, so do some other brands models (eg BMW). Never seen a trend in failures, only an urge to remove because...

 

[saiko21]

CDV is actually good as it limits the shock to the transmission and protects the transmission gears. if you are rowing through gears then you will feel the cons of CDV if you just drive sanely then it's better to leave it as it is

 

[MaxPower]

It looks like the clutch on 2020 is more fragile ( based on post here)

I see no reason to believe the 2020 clutch is particularly fragile. I've read about three instances of early clutch failure on this forum. Everyone else seems to be doing fine (including myself). If it was a pervasive issue across all MY2020 cars, we'd see a lot more failures.

You might have gotten a lemon

...I think this may be the answer. Perhaps there are a few more lemony clutches in 2020 cars than in prior years. Regardless of the cause, I hope @Sixers Ryan gets it sorted out under warranty.

 

[Sixers Ryan]

I see no reason to believe the 2020 clutch is particularly fragile. I've read about three instances of early clutch failure on this forum. Everyone else seems to be doing fine (including myself). If it was a pervasive issue across all MY2020 cars, we'd see a lot more failures.



...I think this may be the answer. Perhaps there are a few more lemony clutches in 2020 cars than in prior years. Regardless of the cause, I hope @Sixers Ryan gets it sorted out under warranty.

 

[Sixers Ryan]

Thanks. I talked with the my dealership GM last night and he said "Not to Worry as Service will take care of me just fine" Honestly, that meant really nothing until this is resolved but apparently service ordered all the parts needed right away. I assume warranty will take care of it but actually this began in April with a heavy smell. I have paperwork from the dealer back then that they couldn't detect the smell and believed it was a piece of plastic stuck on the exhaust that they scraped off. Nope, it was the clutch starting to go I guess. Did any of you also experience "black residue" all over your exhaust? Mine was loaded after this. I'll be in touch when I hear more. Thanks and have a great weekend.

 

[2020CivicSI]

I have black residue on the tip of my exhaust. I think that is normal. My car is stock, and isn't throwing any engine codes, so I just assumed that it was normal. I believe that it's just unburnt fuel that gets carbonized and then deposits on the exhaust tip.

 

[bikejog]

Did any of you also experience "black residue" all over your exhaust? Mine was loaded after this. I'll be in touch when I hear more. Thanks and have a great weekend.

All over the exterior or inside the piping? I'll have to check mine, but I never notice any burning smell so far. I got mine in March not even 3K miles yet.

 

[bikejog]

If the clutch was slipping, it would cause a burning smell, but would not appear in the exhaust pipe.
It could cause the flywheel & pressure plate to get cracks due to overheating.

I also didn't think clutch residue would make it to the inside of the exhaust pipe. I thought he might be saying the residue somehow escaped the transmission housing, went underneath the car, and coating the exterior of the piping and muffler.

 

[Sixers Ryan]

Ok, thanks so much...I wasn't sure if they were somehow related. But yes, my clutch burning smell appeared in April ( I received the car in late October 2019) at around 4500 miles and totally burnt out Wednesday night at around 6800. (dealership is suburbs north of Philly)

 

[saiko21]

I have black residue on the tip of my exhaust. I think that is normal. My car is stock, and isn't throwing any engine codes, so I just assumed that it was normal. I believe that it's just unburnt fuel that gets carbonized and then deposits on the exhaust tip.

Black residue is because it's a gdi engine. Nothing to worry

 

[saiko21]

Here is a simplified explanation of GDI (Gasoline Direct Injection).

"Over time this causes carbon build up", but this should not be the case for new engines.

That's pretty vague explanation but in gdi engine since the gasoline is directly injected there will be little incomplete combustion and can form soot as air & fuel homogeneous mixture can't be formed in such a short time when compared to mpfi engine where you have sufficient time in inlet port . That soot is what you see at the exhaust tip. Overtime any engine will have carbon buildup as complete combustion is only possible in theory.

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