Civic Si. vs. Audi S3?

[suhhh]

Did you see the new one? Also, if it matters to you, the golf r is available in manual. S3 isn't.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/11/03/2022-volkswagen-golf-r-specifications-photos/#slide-2275116

Drift mode????
Interesting, the new R does look really really nice tbh and the manual gearbox is tempting. I like the styling of this one over the previous gens a lot more. Previous gens just seemed TOO lowkey for me.

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[Drake]

Aren't there used S4s that come in manual? That would be my preference

 

[VarmintCong]

Very true what you said and I agree. I also wouldn't want to own one without warranty as well because german cars are unknown territory to me and I have no idea how to work on them. I'm still young (24), I think I just got a bit excited at the prospect of it. Although I can technically afford one, I still need to take into account maintenance costs and need to have backup money in case things go wrong. Definitely a sleek mature car but I think I might just need to wait a bit until I'm in a more financially better position to get a new/new-ish one rather than settle for a 40-50k mile one and risk it

The thing about German cars is it's easy to find good independent shops that specialize in them, at least that was the case with BMW. It's actually harder to find an independent that specializes in Japanese cars. So that's not an issue imo. But the BMWs went through a lot of parts, it chewed up parts.

 

[VarmintCong]

Aren't there used S4s that come in manual? That would be my preference

S4 yes, S3 no, I don't think so.

 

[suhhh]

The thing about German cars is it's easy to find good independent shops that specialize in them, at least that was the case with BMW. It's actually harder to find an independent that specializes in Japanese cars. So that's not an issue imo. But the BMWs went through a lot of parts, it chewed up parts.

Agreed, I have quite a few around me that specialize in BMW/Audi that are very reputable which is nice, luckily I also have a 10th gen specialty shop like 5 min from me hahah

But yeah they go through hella parts, gotta make sure my bank account is ready for all that before I pull the trigger

 

[TornadoredGen3]

Agreed, I have quite a few around me that specialize in BMW/Audi that are very reputable which is nice, luckily I also have a 10th gen specialty shop like 5 min from me hahah

But yeah they go through hella parts, gotta make sure my bank account is ready for all that before I pull the trigger

S3 is identical to GOLF R same motor 2.0L is38. similar dsg the S3 is tuned to be slightly more aggressive and ive heard in some occastion the clutch packs on the dsg handle a bit more tq.
the two are 99% identical the golf seems to be a tad wider and longer and has a bit more leg room in the back . IF you think an audi S3 is a difficult to work on think of it this way .. its engine , trans and awd is same as golf r. Golf R has exact engine and trans as Gti , gti has smaller turbo and no exhaust VVT. Aftermarket option is veryy vast and there many in low 11s on e85 stock turbo
that being is said since i don't have the Si anymore and got rid another car laying around, my next purchase is 2018 S3 and or a B5 S4.

 

[TornadoredGen3]

Agreed, I have quite a few around me that specialize in BMW/Audi that are very reputable which is nice, luckily I also have a 10th gen specialty shop like 5 min from me hahah

But yeah they go through hella parts, gotta make sure my bank account is ready for all that before I pull the trigger

where in north jersey are you?

 

[suhhh]

S3 is identical to GOLF R same motor 2.0L is38. similar dsg the S3 is tuned to be slightly more aggressive and ive heard in some occastion the clutch packs on the dsg handle a bit more tq.
the two are 99% identical the golf seems to be a tad wider and longer and has a bit more leg room in the back . IF you think an audi S3 is a difficult to work on think of it this way .. its engine , trans and awd is same as golf r. Golf R has exact engine and trans as Gti , gti has smaller turbo and no exhaust VVT. Aftermarket option is veryy vast and there many in low 11s on e85 stock turbo
that being is said since i don't have the Si anymore and got rid another car laying around, my next purchase is 2018 S3 and or a B5 S4.

Yeah basically identical, S3 is just a luxury "step up". Both those are good choices, I don't know too much about Audi but I dig the older S4 body style

where in north jersey are you?

I'm in Fort Lee right near GWB

 

[civicmanic]

Verrrry nice if you want what the s3 has to offer, but with a manual:

 

[TornadoredGen3]

veryy high tech and loaded with options but its uglyyy its longer and taller !!! NOPP
vw is steadily loosing its appeal and its followers on the hatch and compact size sedans.. more people are leaving the jetta since 2007 and have gotten Suvs

 

[civicmanic]

more people are leaving the jetta since 2007 and have gotten Suvs

Since 2007 SUV sales have gone up big time across the board. Ford, as an example, doesn't even sell cars anymore!! Just trucks and SUV's.

Except for mustang, but I am talking about daily drivers here.

 

[SI_honda_2k17]

I did exactly that moove 2 months ago. I traded my 2017 SI for an S3 technik.
It is a 48 months lease, i always lease my car and since i’m fully confident of the long term reliability of the audi.
When i look at the initial quality after 2 month. The audi wins hands down the competition vs my Si. Within 2 months after i purchase my civic: i already had issue with the gps, the fit and finish (bumper) the rear suspension and the gaz in the oil. So we ll see if the S3 continue to be reliable

as for the car itself i am really happy. Love the performance, the luxury, the virtual cockpit and the look

i did consider the Type R but did not like the boy racer look and i wanted an AWD to take advantage of the performance all year long. For me the performance are equivalent

i also consider the Golf R but i decide to go with the Audi mainly for the look the sunroof, the extra technology and equipment (B&O sound system for instance) for me it justify the 75$/ month but it’s just me.

 

[VarmintCong]

veryy high tech and loaded with options but its uglyyy its longer and taller !!! NOPP
vw is steadily loosing its appeal and its followers on the hatch and compact size sedans.. more people are leaving the jetta since 2007 and have gotten Suvs

It may look longer and taller but if I remember it gained less than an inch in any direction.

 

[VarmintCong]

I did exactly that moove 2 months ago. I traded my 2017 SI for an S3 technik.
It is a 48 months lease, i always lease my car and since i’m fully confident of the long term reliability of the audi.
When i look at the initial quality after 2 month. The audi wins hands down the competition vs my Si. Within 2 months after i purchase my civic: i already had issue with the gps, the fit and finish (bumper) the rear suspension and the gaz in the oil. So we ll see if the S3 continue to be reliable

as for the car itself i am really happy. Love the performance, the luxury, the virtual cockpit and the look

i did consider the Type R but did not like the boy racer look and i wanted an AWD to take advantage of the performance all year long. For me the performance are equivalent

i also consider the Golf R but i decide to go with the Audi mainly for the look the sunroof, the extra technology and equipment (B&O sound system for instance) for me it justify the 75$/ month but it’s just me.

I love the S3 it's just the perfect sedan look, it looks like the great designs of the mid 2000s, like the B5 S4 and the E46 BMWs.

If it came in a manual I'd be lusting after one. Especially the RS3 which sounds amazing.

 

[suhhh]

I did exactly that moove 2 months ago. I traded my 2017 SI for an S3 technik.
It is a 48 months lease, i always lease my car and since i’m fully confident of the long term reliability of the audi.
When i look at the initial quality after 2 month. The audi wins hands down the competition vs my Si. Within 2 months after i purchase my civic: i already had issue with the gps, the fit and finish (bumper) the rear suspension and the gaz in the oil. So we ll see if the S3 continue to be reliable

as for the car itself i am really happy. Love the performance, the luxury, the virtual cockpit and the look

i did consider the Type R but did not like the boy racer look and i wanted an AWD to take advantage of the performance all year long. For me the performance are equivalent

i also consider the Golf R but i decide to go with the Audi mainly for the look the sunroof, the extra technology and equipment (B&O sound system for instance) for me it justify the 75$/ month but it’s just me.

Thanks for sharing this is what I needed

I would definitely consider leasing if I could so I wouldn't have to worry about any reliability issues but I drive way too much in the year and would likely go over the mileage limit (almost 16k miles after 8 mo with my current si)

I think the S3 is a very solid car in terms of build quality and performance, it's definitely on the list of cars to consider in the near future

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