California to ban ECU tuning!!!

[mforcino]

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[svffr]

This is a result of uninformed Lawmakers introducing legislation that has no meaningful change.
My opinion is based off limited knowledge about the whole thing other than the video you linked. I'll have to read the bill but I wouldn't be surprised if the bill is useless as this is CA we are talking about. Anyways, most of the time if you know someone who does state inspections you can get your car passed for an extra $20 which is what virtually every modded car guy does.

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[mforcino]

This is a result of uninformed Lawmakers introducing legislation that has no meaningful change.
My opinion is based off limited knowledge about the whole thing other than the video you linked. I'll have to read the bill but I wouldn't be surprised if the bill is useless as this is CA we are talking about. Anyways, most of the time if you know someone who does state inspections you can get your car passed for an extra $20 which is what virtually every modded car guy does.

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What’s crazy is that Ktuner and hondata have both seen better fuel economy and emissions than stock.

 

[Doc_Mello]

About time, really. Doesn't seem like a concern, though, because we re-flash to stock for smog tuning anyway.

"What we do know for sure is this: if you’re running an ECU or a tuning device that doesn't have a CARB EO, you’re gonna want to bring it back into compliance before your next emissions test.

"'So far in the two weeks that have transpired, we have seen zero instances of concern,' Treydte told R&T. 'I really don’t think that this is problematic.'"

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cu...californias-new-ecu-law-means-for-tuned-cars/

 

[jakdotdot]

What’s crazy is that Ktuner and hondata have both seen better fuel economy and emissions than stock.

Better gas milage, possibly. Better emissions.. I doubt that.

 

[mforcino]

Better gas milage, possibly. Better emissions.. I doubt that.

I thought they did but guess not. This video claims that tuners can actually improve emissions by adjusting for the right timing.

 

[svffr]

What’s crazy is that Ktuner and hondata have both seen better fuel economy and emissions than stock.

I'm sure the sample demographic which was reviewed during the drafting of this legislation was murdered out Mustangs and Dodges and the 4cyl community was just collateral which is unfortunate since my 1.5T gets better emissions than my 1.8 eco civic. lol

 

[mforcino]

I'm sure the sample demographic which was reviewed during the drafting of this legislation was murdered out Mustangs and Dodges and the 4cyl community was just collateral which is unfortunate since my 1.5T gets better emissions than my 1.8 eco civic. lol

Imagine if California saw some of the cars here in Florida ?

 

[Centripetal]

Meanwhile people are allowed to drive their V12 super cars that pollute more than a modified Civic.

 

[svffr]

Imagine if California saw some of the cars here in Florida ?

If the state of CA had its way we would all be driving electric cars.

Could you imagine an all electric Mustang!? Oh wait...

 

[xXoVrKiLLXx]

I'm sure the sample demographic which was reviewed during the drafting of this legislation was murdered out Mustangs and Dodges and the 4cyl community was just collateral which is unfortunate since my 1.5T gets better emissions than my 1.8 eco civic. lol

To add to this - If you read the epa stuff out there see below link their example images were trucks rolling coal...
https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-cooke/...on-dollar-industry-is-trying-to-ruin-our-air/

Check this out to.
https://www.sema.org/epa-news

 

[svffr]

To add to this - If you read the epa stuff out there see below link their example images were trucks rolling coal...
https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-cooke/...on-dollar-industry-is-trying-to-ruin-our-air/

Check this out to.
https://www.sema.org/epa-news

Not a fan of the Author comparing a Dodge rolling coal and some guy tracking his Vette. Some of these people are over zealous. I'm all for keeping the air clean but go after the real problem. Don't punish the people that aren't causing real harm.

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