I wouldnt waste your time then. EX-T is ~$1.6k less expensive than an Si before discounts and Honda offers incentives towards leasing the run of the mill Civics so to expect a similar lease payment on a more expensive car thats not being discounted or has incentives from the manufacturer is asinine.I have not gone in to see my dealer chick about payments yet...but considering she leased my mom a 2016 EX-T w/CVT, 15k miles, and all season mats for $221 with ~$2k down...
If she comes at me with a number anywhere approaching $300 I'm laughing and walking out
So how did that work out on a lease calculator? How much profit did the dealer see there? 400 bux w/ 1,000 out of pocket on a car that has a MSRP of 24kish sounds way too high. What was your capitalized cost?I put $1,100 down and pay $400/mo for 15k miles.
Residual: 60% = $14,865
Money Factor: .00210
My dealer also let me use a loaner for three weeks since my previous lease ended mid-May. That saved me about $750 in rental fees. So I didn't mind paying MSRP, or getting the standard lease deal. I leased my '13 from them four years ago for $1,000 down and $250/mo. Now that was a deal! (Honda will let you extend the lease up to a year.)
Keep in mind, "down" in these cases includes the first month's payment.
I agree, the lease isn't great financially, but I've been leasing for years, and really like the guaranteed no-hassle out in three years. I just don't ever want to deal with selling, especially if there's some huge improvement in three years or something comes up with this new model and it's hard to sell down the road.
It's their job to convince me to make a purchase, they are the salespeople...I wouldnt waste your time then. EX-T is ~$1.6k less expensive than an Si before discounts and Honda offers incentives towards leasing the run of the mill Civics so to expect a similar lease payment on a more expensive car thats not being discounted or has incentives from the manufacturer is asinine.
But you are not taking into account that HFS is subsidizing leases on all models except the Si and Type R. Your dealer cant change the lease rates Honda provides on the Si and they arent going to be as good as what they are on a EX-T.It's their job to convince me to make a purchase, they are the salespeople...
As you said...$1600 more between an EX-T and an Si...spread out over 36 months isn't a large amount...I'm not looking for the extra milage or extras they threw in on my mom's EX-T...
If they don't want to play ball, I don't sign the papers, it's simple...The Si isn't some limited production exclusive model...it's a sporty grocery getter with a manual tranny, nothing more
Not my problem...that's theirs...I walkBut you are not taking into account that HFS is subsidizing leases on all models except the Si and Type R. Your dealer cant change the lease rates Honda provides on the Si and they arent going to be as good as what they are on a EX-T.
Oh noes, what ever is the dealership going to do that didn't sell you a car LOL.Not my problem...that's theirs...I walk
The beauty of being in the market for a daily driver you want, but don't need
They will either find a sucker to pay what they want to sell it for...or call me back a couple days later with a better offer...Oh noes, what ever is the dealership going to do that didn't sell you a car LOL.
Oh lease extension is good to know! I might extend my Accord Sport lease to see new Accord Vs Civic Si. Also, by 2018 all the kinks should be worked out!I put $1,100 down and pay $400/mo for 15k miles.
Residual: 60% = $14,865
Money Factor: .00210
My dealer also let me use a loaner for three weeks since my previous lease ended mid-May. That saved me about $750 in rental fees. So I didn't mind paying MSRP, or getting the standard lease deal. I leased my '13 from them four years ago for $1,000 down and $250/mo. Now that was a deal! (Honda will let you extend the lease up to a year.)
Keep in mind, "down" in these cases includes the first month's payment.
I agree, the lease isn't great financially, but I've been leasing for years, and really like the guaranteed no-hassle out in three years. I just don't ever want to deal with selling, especially if there's some huge improvement in three years or something comes up with this new model and it's hard to sell down the road.
I think that most of the kinks had already been worked out, because it is largely an EX-T with some tweaks, instead of being a brand new, freshly redesigned from the ground up, platform like the 2016 Civics were. Haven't heard owners complaining about the Si anywhere near the way some owners were complaining last year about the very early '16 models. Mine seems flawless (granted, it's only been a couple days, but still.)Also, by 2018 all the kinks should be worked out!