Anyone ever get the feeling that Honda pulled a fast one on us with the CTR?

[s2kdriver80]

Depends on the market. I know the US does not have a side camera. I believe Canada and Asia (which includes Australia) do, but not sure about Europe.

Europe gets BSM integrated into the side mirrors.

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[unholy79]

TBH, the fit and finish on my 2016 Golf R was exponentially better than my 2019 CTR, but in all my years of driving this has been my favorite car. A moonroof and heated seats would be nice, but overall it's the most ridiculous looking / fun vehicle I've driven... The fact that a year and a half after buying it, it is still worth more than I paid for it is even better. That may not last once the next gen CTR's come out, but in my experience Japanese vehicles maintain their value nearly as well as my pickup trucks.

 

[AlphaDigital]

Europe gets BSM integrated into the side mirrors.

read this as bdsm. ? I gotta chill!

 

[heavyD]

These cars have to be in the running for worst built Honda cars ever. Swindon definitely played a role in that and we will have to wait and see with Greensburg Type R's just how much of that was due to the facility.

 

[dwag0588]

These cars have to be in the running for worst built Honda cars ever. Swindon definitely played a role in that and we will have to wait and see with Greensburg Type R's just how much of that was due to the facility.

The 10th gen sedans weren't any better and had many of the same issues as our hatches. The plant isn't going to make that big of a difference.

 

[Satta]

They are not a Porsche or Mercedes. That is the whole point of a 'hot hatch'

 

[Byron Sexton]

These cars have to be in the running for worst built Honda cars ever. Swindon definitely played a role in that and we will have to wait and see with Greensburg Type R's just how much of that was due to the facility.

I swear Hondas were built better back in the day maybe it was just me

 

[TANSTAAFL]

TBH, the fit and finish on my 2016 Golf R was exponentially better than my 2019 CTR

Heh, I had a 2016 Golf R too, and yeah, it was built like a bank vault and finished like a Faberge egg. Nice as could be. Sadly, I found it far less exciting than the MK VI GTI I traded for it, and nowhere near as fun as the CTR. Part of that was weight, but part was also the very Teutonic ultra-competence the damn thing displayed on the road. Sure, you were not going to lose it on a turn or get sideways on an entrance ramp, but you also were rarely going to feel you were calling the shots. The way the car put down power and grip was amazing, but also sort of insulated and soulless.

 

[unholy79]

Heh, I had a 2016 Golf R too, and yeah, it was built like a bank vault and finished like a Faberge egg. Nice as could be. Sadly, I found it far less exciting than the MK VI GTI I traded for it, and nowhere near as fun as the CTR. Part of that was weight, but part was also the very Teutonic ultra-competence the damn thing displayed on the road. Sure, you were not going to lose it on a turn or get sideways on an entrance ramp, but you also were rarely going to feel you were calling the shots. The way the car put down power and grip was amazing, but also sort of insulated and soulless.

Honestly I loved everything about that car except for the 6 speed manual, the gating was crap... Only car in 25 years of driving manual that I've actually missed a shift in. My first Honda was a 2018 Civic Si couple which truly reminded me of my old MK5 GTI, then I sat in my CTR at the dealership and the rest was history...

 

[michaeljf]

Anyone ever get the feeling that Honda pulled delivered a fast one on to us with the CTR?


Fixed the thread title for you ?

 

[BryanCO]

At the entry price that this vehicle costs we lack a lot of features/Quality.
The Paint on the car is not $40K worthy
The Body and material of the car compared to other cars in it's price range doesn't feel $40K worthy.

As a guy who has driven and seen many different cars in my life. The CTR while an amazing performance machine lacks in other areas.. While I love the Type R I feel like I drive an overpriced econobox. Maybe i am alone in this thought.

Maybe you pay to drive a race ready engine that's street legal?

It is an overpriced econobox. Not that there anything wrong with that.

 

[TANSTAAFL]

Honestly I loved everything about that car except for the 6 speed manual, the gating was crap... Only car in 25 years of driving manual that I've actually missed a shift in. My first Honda was a 2018 Civic Si couple which truly reminded me of my old MK5 GTI, then I sat in my CTR at the dealership and the rest was history..

Oh, the shifter was shite. I replaced the stock set up with a Dieselgeek setup and a heavier knob, and the process was much smoother. But still, it is clear VW cares not one whit about manuals any more.

 

[TANSTAAFL]

It is an overpriced econobox. Not that there anything wrong with that.

I really can't say it's overpriced. It's not cheap, no, but to me you get a lot more of what I want for my money here than from many cars. It's not the absolute price that's important, it's value. A $200 meal can be well worth it, and a $5 burger a total waste of money--and vice versa.

 

[blackdiamond]

As far as paint.... 2 years in a black car and no chips... I guess I drive different then most
CTR needs comfier seats and have the option for more sidewall (wouldn't buy a vehicle where I would immediatey have to buy a different set of wheels first thing)... I live where potholes could be considered lakes

 

[LSUFANDAN]

So far so good with my 2019. This car is so good I haven't felt the need to mess with it. Just drive and enjoy the Type R the way it was designed. I did get PPF protection on the front half for the paint right after I bought it. Im coming from a 2014 Chevy Silverado Z71 and can tell you this car seems like a luxury vehicle compared to that piece of crap lol.

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