ABS bleed (w/scan tool)

[MyBlueCivic]

Wondering if anyone know if the 10th gen is capable of preforming an ABS bleed with a scan tool, or is that function not available on our cars?

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[Hondanickx]

My foxwell nt530 pro (honda) could bleed each abs solenoid .I didn't use it because i had Stahlbus bleeders installed and those did the job great.

 

[fitter_here]

My foxwell nt530 pro (honda) could bleed each abs solenoid .I didn't use it because i had Stahlbus bleeders installed and those did the job great.

Can you do a EPB maintenance with your Foxwell 530 Pro.?

 

[m_kluch]

Can you do a EPB maintenance with your Foxwell 530 Pro.?

You can command the rear calipers to open and close with that scan tool if that is what you mean. I have that scanner as well. Just dont tell it to clamp when they are off of the rotor with no brake pads or the piston will come all the way out

 

[fitter_here]

You can command the rear calipers to open and close with that scan tool if that is what you mean. I have that scanner as well. Just dont tell it to clamp when they are off of the rotor with no brake pads or the piston will come all the way out

Thanks a lot, that was my question, I'm looking to buy one of these.

 

[Hondanickx]

Can you do a EPB maintenance with your Foxwell 530 Pro.?

Yes I used it to put in maintenance mode ,works great.

 

[fitter_here]

Yes I used it to put in maintenance mode ,works great.

Thanks

 

[casper]

My foxwell nt530 pro (honda) could bleed each abs solenoid .I didn't use it because i had Stahlbus bleeders installed and those did the job great.

does anyone know of any other options for ABS bleeding?

 

[BrandonSmith]

does anyone know of any other options for ABS bleeding?

Autel Maxi AP 200 works well for entering service mode for the EPB.

To be clear about someone's previous comment: no, our Civics do not have a brake bleed function - you must manually pump the brakes or use a brake bleeder.

 

[keller]

Autel Maxi AP 200 works well for entering service mode for the EPB.

To be clear about someone's previous comment: no, our Civics do not have a brake bleed function - you must manually pump the brakes or use a brake bleeder.

I believe he's asking for a tool to bleed the internal VSA (ABS) reservouirs. It is a thing in other cars, but I don't think it's needed for our civics. At least the service manual doesn't mention it.

 

[casper]

I believe he's asking for a tool to bleed the internal VSA (ABS) reservouirs. It is a thing in other cars, but I don't think it's needed for our civics. At least the service manual doesn't mention it.

Right, I was doing some research before doing a DIY brake fluid flush and came across mention that the ABS needs to be activated somehow in order to bleed the fluid within, otherwise, old fluid could mix with the new fluid (if ABS is ever activated post-flush), or else the old fluid would just sit in the ABS and could cause premature ABS failure due to water buildup over the years (maybe?)?

I’ve seen both Autel MaxiAP200 and Foxwell tools used around the forum and am willing to spend the money on one for this and future jobs, but just wanted to know what the cheapest option is or if it’s worth “splurging” on the Foxwell NT530 unit, for any reason.

I would also be pleased to be informed if this is all unnecessary in our cars, but given there is an ABS system, I don’t see how it could be… at least if I want to do it 100%.

 

[keller]

Right, I was doing some research before doing a DIY brake fluid flush and came across mention that the ABS needs to be activated somehow in order to bleed the fluid within, otherwise, old fluid could mix with the new fluid (if ABS is ever activated post-flush), or else the old fluid would just sit in the ABS and could cause premature ABS failure due to water buildup over the years (maybe?)?

I’ve seen both Autel MaxiAP200 and Foxwell tools used around the forum and am willing to spend the money on one for this and future jobs, but just wanted to know what the cheapest option is or if it’s worth “splurging” on the Foxwell NT530 unit, for any reason.

I would also be pleased to be informed if this is all unnecessary in our cars, but given there is an ABS system, I don’t see how it could be… at least if I want to do it 100%.

You got me curious. I just went to my R (the VSA is the same for all 10th gens!) and tried the "Brake bleed" menu in my AP200. It only says 'this function is not supported on this vehicle'.

I always bleed my brakes following the service manual, which doesn't mention any step regarding the VSA reservoirs. For other maintenance jobs it does mention steps that needs the Honda HIS tool to command systems to do certain tasks, but not for brake bleeding. I can only assume Honda's VSA tries to keep the reservoirs empty at all times, thus not needing a special command during maintenance.

We track both our 10th gen civics. We have boiled our fluid and activated the ABS many times on the track. Before going to a trackday, I thoroughly test our brakes on an empty straight road (including many ABS activations). I have never felt like a brake bleed was poorly done or air potentially trapped in the VSA reservoirs was released back into the brake line.

 

[casper]

You got me curious. I just went to my R (the VSA is the same for all 10th gens!) and tried the "Brake bleed" menu in my AP200. It only says 'this function is not supported on this vehicle'.

I always bleed my brakes following the service manual, which doesn't mention any step regarding the VSA reservoirs. For other maintenance jobs it does mention steps that needs the Honda HIS tool to command systems to do certain tasks, but not for brake bleeding. I can only assume Honda's VSA tries to keep the reservoirs empty at all times, thus not needing a special command during maintenance.

We track both our 10th gen civics. We have boiled our fluid and activated the ABS many times on the track. Before going to a trackday, I thoroughly test our brakes on an empty straight road (including many ABS activations). I have never felt like a brake bleed was poorly done or air potentially trapped in the VSA reservoirs was released back into the brake line.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I was also looking through the service manual last night and noticed this as well... So it would seem there is no need to cycle the ABS to do a brake fluid flush?

 

[keller]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I was also looking through the service manual last night and noticed this as well... So it would seem there is no need to cycle the ABS to do a brake fluid flush?

Yeah, so it seems. It makes sense, actually. The VSA needs that reservoir empty to work properly. When the ABS activates and fluid is allowed in, it should try its best to empty it asap to allow for a new ABS cycle.

Good luck with your brake fluid job.