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August 6 th ; Update ; there is no crack ,only dissipation wings are missing. Nothing to worry about.
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Hello ,
No more A / C.
After examining the condenser from the front of the car, I noticed a hole in the condenser.
I see two cracks, it must be the cause of gas loss. What do you think ?

The 2 cracks appear 1/8 or 3/16 inch deep.

Thank you for your help.


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Yep. That looks like the other damage photos where Honda determines the damage is the result of 'road debris'.

The cooling fins are really bent in that area. Did you hit something big?
 
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Yep. That looks like the other damage photos where Honda determines the damage is the result of 'road debris'.

The cooling fins are really bent in that area. Did you hit something big?

Yes it look "road debris".
Hit something big ? I don't know It is my wife car. She did not remember anything.
We sometimes receive rock on our car.

I'll go to my dealer monday for estimate.
I'll go to A/C car shop I know for second opinion.


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See, this is the kind of thing the dealer needs to show before they randomly go and start replacing A/C parts at your expense. At a miniumum, they could show you were the dye is leaking since the damage usually isn't that obvious.
 
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First estimate today ( by phone ) at a my small town A/C car shop : $400 CND ( $300 US )
All include.

I'll look to put a metal screen mesh in front of condenser of our two Civic.
I have this one in stock. I could buy a better one if needed.

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First estimate today ( by phone ) at a my small town A/C car shop : $400 CND ( $300 US )
All include.

I'll look to put a metal screen mesh in front of condenser of our two Civic.
I have this one in stock. I could buy a better one if needed.

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300 for a new condenser? Honda quoted me 1100. Wow, they're living up to that 'stealership' reputation.
 
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I'll go to my Honda dealer monday. I'll report the estimate.

I never go to Honda dealer for service. Too expensive.
I always go to my small town mechanic. I don't want to pay for nice show room and coffee machine
 
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Today I look more carefully with a flashlight close to the "hole" and the "cracks" are only some dirt I remove with a finger.
IMO, it is only heat dissipation wings that would be broken.
 
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Use uv dye to determine leak

Thank you, I don't have this tool and I don't want to fix myself.
Honda give a 10 years warranty extension on condenser. I'll go to my dealer tomorrow .
 
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Tuesday August 4th:
Visit to my Honda dealer; 15 minutes to be able to speak only to the secretary who makes the appointments at the service. Only approximate answers ...
To have an opinion on the problem and to know if it is covered by the guarantee: approximate cost of $ 200 cnd. I have to leave the car all day.
Deductible amount if I have it repaired and still it is not certain ...

I'm canceling my appointment.

I go, without appointment, to my A / C workshop in my small town.
Workshop that I know.
I am received by the boss who immediately checks that the system is empty of Freon.
To see if there is a leak and where it is, he has to fill Freon's system with a color. The color will make the leak very visible.
Immediately the A / C works.
No parts were replaced.
The leak can be very small and manifest itself within a few hours, days, weeks, or months.
I have to take the car back and watch the A / C.
Cost ; $ 119 cnd which will be deducted from a future repair if necessary within 1 year.

Wednesday August 5th, the A / C is still working.

I'll get back to you later.
 

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Tuesday August 4th:
Visit to my Honda dealer; 15 minutes to be able to speak only to the secretary who makes the appointments at the service. Only approximate answers ...
To have an opinion on the problem and to know if it is covered by the guarantee: approximate cost of $ 200 cnd. I have to leave the car all day.
Deductible amount if I have it repaired and still it is not certain ...

I'm canceling my appointment.

I go, without appointment, to my A / C workshop in my small town.
Workshop that I know.
I am received by the boss who immediately checks that the system is empty of Freon.
To see if there is a leak and where it is, he has to fill Freon's system with a color. The color will make the leak very visible.
Immediately the A / C works.
No parts were replaced.
The leak can be very small and manifest itself within a few hours, days, weeks, or months.
I have to take the car back and watch the A / C.
Cost ; $ 119 cnd which will be deducted from a future repair if necessary within 1 year.

Wednesday August 5th, the A / C is still working.

I'll get back to you later.
Does the dye they used also include r1234yf or is it just dye? If it's just dye, how is it cold. If it's dye and r1234yf you could be good for several months.
 
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It is include r1234yf. That is why I wrote A/C is working ( normal cold air )

Why it could be good for several months ?
If there a big leak, ( who know ?) I could loose freon in next fews days or weeks
 

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I mentioned that simply because it could take months before all your refrigerant leaks out again. But like you said, who knows.

There are people on here who refilled their system (without fixing the leak) earlier this summer who are still blowing cold.
 
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I mentioned that simply because it could take months before all your refrigerant leaks out again. But like you said, who knows.

There are people on here who refilled their system (without fixing the leak) earlier this summer who are still blowing cold.

You are right,

This A/C shop owner tell me that. If there a leak, he will see it with dye he put with freon and he will not charge me for a new refill after issue is fixed ; condenser, hose .....
 

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