316 HP / 310 lb-ft Power Numbers Leaked For FL5 2023 Civic Type! (via Brochure)

[Viet_Racer]

Just posted this over on XI site...

316 HP / 310 lb-ft Figures Leaked For FL5 2023 Civic Type! (via Brochure)

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[wildbilly32]

Well that HP and torque increase might cover the additional weight...

I'm just sayin

Why do car designers want to take small nimble cars and fatten them up? Just read a blurb in the PCA monthly mag that said the reason behind the Porsche size/weight increases over the last few model types was due to the increased technology requiring more room and the future need for battery space when they go EV. I cry B.S. on that! "They" are killing the fun in "drivers cars" for a public who wants creature comfort and all the bells and whistles.

GOD I'm old...sigh.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Nice! I’d be interested to see the dyno graphs on these. Honda has a way lately of shifting torque to where it’s needed in the power band while not increasing peak numbers by much - Like on the new Si. This small increase and the tires explain the faster lap times at Suzuka.

 

[Quip]

Wow. That’s a bit disappointing.

I feel the FK8 will be faster around the track.

makes me want to keep my 19’ CW even more now.

 

[SmokeGhost]

Guess to make up the weight increase.

If you have an fk8 this seems to be a lateral upgrade.

just waiting on the next gen for the likely hybrid/electrification. That future type R will be something else.

 

[arpypat]

I'm confused. Isn't 243kw/330PS closer to 325 hp?

 

[TheCanadian]

Wow. That’s a bit disappointing.

I feel the FK8 will be faster around the track.

makes me want to keep my 19’ CW even more now.

I can with 100% confidence tell you the FL5 will wipe the floor with our car. There's literally no way Honda made this thing slower with the additional cooling, 5+ years of chassis suspension development, and the new tire package.

 

[TheCanadian]

I'm confused. Isn't 243kw/330PS closer to 325 hp?

The FK8 was 316hp in the other markets too. They adjust the ratings for the SAE calculation I believe.
FK8 = 306/316
FL5 = 316/326
So the additional power in the FL5 = 316hp in USDM/CDN markets

 

[Sleepy]

I expected as much with it being the same power plant. I think people were just shooting a little too high with expectations of it being around 325+ although potential is probably better for tuning of stock turbo…

 

[jdm_mike]

The FK8 was 316hp in the other markets too. They adjust the ratings for the SAE calculation I believe.
FK8 = 306/316
FL5 = 316/326
So the additional power in the FL5 = 316hp in USDM/CDN markets

Good observation but if I don't see these numbers internally then I won't believe it. I get my spec sheet (power and pricing) next month

 

[moonrobin]

Looks like Honda just made an incremental improvement, just enough to say the new one is "faster" than the outgoing model. Personally I think the main perf difference is the new venting and cooling, which remains a weak point of the FK8 (even post mid cycle refresh).

The marginal power gains are 99% for the press, since you can trivially achieve the same with any off the shelf tune.

 

[NapalmEnema]

Traction was already an issue this isn't a surprise. I think it'll be fatter power in the middle, about same torque to keep wheelspin in check and overall faster with the improvements.

Imma still go hug my voltron car though.

 

[Byron Sexton]

All i see is bigger price tag

 

[typearghhhh]

All i see is bigger price tag

are you acting dumb on purpose or what

 

[Setanta]

I was wondering if 316bhp of the JDM FK8 would translate to the FL5 for the US and Australia. Honda seems to always give us a detuned spec.

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