2020 Type R 2k miles Rotors are scored up on all 4 wheels

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As far as the dealer telling you have drum brakes on the rear...for the love of god go to another dealer cause that is concerning.
Is it possible that you have a small drum brake on the rear just for the parking brake? That is common in many disc brake cars. My CRV had it.



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Is it possible that you have a small drum brake on the rear just for the parking brake? That is common in many disc brake cars. My CRV had it.

No. The EPB is an electronically controlled piston. There are no shoes. A quick Google or search of the site would have told you as such.
 
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Well even more bad news. I can smell the pads now. Plus I can feel the parasitic drag from the wheels. It's getting worse. I knew I wasn't crazy.

Fucking dealers are idiots. And according to them their all experts. I aught to scan and add the pitiful invoice they gave me. I would be embarrassed if I was one of their technicians. I just cannot believe the incompetence. They are going to owe me calipers, rotors, pads, and whatever is damaged in the brake system by the time this is all over.

I can smell the brakes, I can see the damage on the rotors, and I can feel the parasitic drag from the wheels. They don't spin at the same rate. Can definitely feel it. I have NEVER owned a car where the pads ride the damn rotor. What kind of bullshit is that?

It would be nice if someone who actually has worked on these cars would respond. Can't find a Honda Tech that has real world experience with these. These cars are somewhat rare where I live so they don't see them often. There might be 10 in my area??

I am really starting to not enjoy my car anymore. It's really sad that this has happened. I have an appointment scheduled with a different dealer on Saturday. Hopefully I will actually get some help.

SMMFH!
 
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I forgot to mention I can also hear them roaring as if a e-hand brake was partially engaged but car was still abale to roll like the 2000 and older civics. It has a very distinct sound and that's what it sounds like. Hard to describe exactly. But I'm sure you know what mean.
 

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I took it to Duval Honda in Jacksonville.

They tell me that the rotors have normal wear even though all 4 rotors are damaged. But it's normal.

Then I was told my Type R has Brake Drums and Brake shoes like the old cars. But you can't see it. Apparently it's invisible??? Harry Potter Brakes wtf?

My seat makes popping noises and has a loose bracket but oh that's normal too even though they can replicate it.

Unless something has changed I'm unaware of....

I mean come on dude. Fix my car and give it back to wtf.
While it's possible to have the calipers or pistons seize, the marks on the rotors do not look abnormal at all. Even the most perfectly seated brakes will make marks in the rotors like that as the brake pad material has varying hard grains of material intermixed and its pattern could literally be used forensically to link a set of pads to a given rotor. It's normal.

As far the the "drum brakes", it's possible they were thinking of parking brakes that are little brake shoes inside a tiny drum. They are probably just making an error, thinking of that park brake type that is not present on this car.

While I am not trying to dismiss your complaint, as I cannot determine if you have a seized caliper, you don't get all 4 rotors showing wear because one caliper may be stuck. You could even have 2 seized calipers, but not likely all 4 and that wear pattern on all 4 discs looks completely normal and is not specifically caused by a seized caliper.

I'd focus on whether or not a caliper is seized, not the wear marks on the rotors.
 

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Why don't you throw your car on your lift at your shop and investigate? You know, as a former wrencher myself, I ran into a ton of cars that had all 4 calipers seize at the same time. Like, literally, happened so often.
 

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more pics of burnt pads/rotors
 

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if your pads aren't retracting all the way and it's happening on all 4 wheels, then maybe it's an issue with the brake fluid? have you tried bleeding them and/or doing a fluid flush? is the brake fluid reservoir adequately filled?
 
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Here's a video for all you non believers. Watch this video. I told you I was delusional or crazy. This isn't normal you can CLEARLY hear it.

Anybody got some ideas so I can tell Honda how to fix it....

Man I'm pissed. This is a safety issue no doubt.

Click tbe you tube link to access the video

 

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That sound isn’t the pad rubbing on the rotor. It’s rock getting stuck on the dust shied. I got it all the time when I was on stock tires. Remove the wheels and inspect the dust shield!

Heres a video when I heard it the first time. Exactly the same sound!

And the scratch on the lip, it can easily be a rock hitting while you’re driving. Luckily the lip is dirt cheap $200 from the dealership.

 
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Here's a video for all you non believers. Watch this video. I told you I was delusional or crazy. This isn't normal you can CLEARLY hear it.

Anybody got some ideas so I can tell Honda how to fix it....

Man I'm pissed. This is a safety issue no doubt.

Click tbe you tube link to access the video

Empathize with the frustration. IMO- Pressing Honda and Techs at dealerships may not help situation if unlikeply issue with vehicle quality. I learned the roads with loose asphalt, gravel and/or pebbles on my favorite backroads for spirited driving may be the common culprit. I get this sound time to time making noise on protectors. Sound was a little terrifying first time! Pulled over, panicked a min, went in to the dealer, tech showed me one of pebbles lodged hitting rotor and protector. drove with me after removing to show me car was safe and sound gone.. Hope your issue just as simple.
 

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Ditto the sound does not sound like brake pad but a rock touching the rotor and dust shield. It can sound crazy like that. I've had it happen before.

Save yourself some stress and take the wheels off already and take a look. This might be resolvable immediately.
 








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