2020 si refresh?

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i drove a 2018 gti and the shifter felt like rubbery shit and the throws were longer than john holmes.

but i cant deny that stock for the stock it did feel a bit quicker and torqier than the si. not by much but definitely noticeable

also the gtis are ugly as fuck. they looked good 2 gens ago tho.
 

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but i cant deny that stock for the stock it did feel a bit quicker and torqier than the si. not by much but definitely noticeable
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I wish it would be true but the GTI trap speed is 3-4 mph higher than the SI. That’s bus lengths
 

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im still surprised they didnt change the rear end and get rid of those gross fake black things on the sedans.
 


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im still surprised they didnt change the rear end and get rid of those gross fake black things on the sedans.
This is part of the reason I waited for the '19 to see if they would update the back end after being on sale for 2 model years. They did nothing pretty much cosmetically so I hope they don't change it at all now. I'll be pissed if there's an update for 2020 :) Unless they find some way to make it look worse. :/
 

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I drove a GTI a day before driving my Si. In terms of raw performance its hard to argue with the numbers... I'm sure the GTI is a little faster. BUT, the Si's boost comes on MUCH lower in the rev range and to me at least FELT faster - at least in "in town" driving.
I recently tested a GTI, and even my 2010 TSX feels quicker for "in town" driving, just like you describe. I think it's because the GTI has relatively tall gearing, so it doesn't feel as eager to rev at lower speeds. My TSX jumps off the line in comparison, but above about 40 mph the GTI's power and torque take over. There's no comparison on the highway.
 

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I recently tested a GTI, and even my 2010 TSX feels quicker for "in town" driving, just like you describe. I think it's because the GTI has relatively tall gearing, so it doesn't feel as eager to rev at lower speeds. My TSX jumps off the line in comparison, but above about 40 mph the GTI's power and torque take over. There's no comparison on the highway.
Ya I totally agree - not sure what it is - gearing or the fact that maybe its a bigger turbo so its a more gradual spool? Not sure.
 

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When i had my 15 GTI i felt the same.... until my Unironic 1+ tune. Instantly woke the car up. There was so much low end torque that traction was hard to manage until i got the hang of it.
 

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I just would like to see them bring back a Si hatch for an option. Bump the HP a bit more and keep what they are doing like the 10th gen. If they had made a Si hatch for the 10th gen I would bet Type R sales would be down.
I like the look of the sedan and coupe for the Si, but my opinion the Civic hatch sport is the best looking of all of them for the 10th gen.

I agree 100%
 


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I just would like to see them bring back a Si hatch for an option. Bump the HP a bit more and keep what they are doing like the 10th gen. If they had made a Si hatch for the 10th gen I would bet Type R sales would be down.
I like the look of the sedan and coupe for the Si, but my opinion the Civic hatch sport is the best looking of all of them for the 10th gen.
And for that reason, they'll never build a Si hatch, they will never try to hurt their CTR market, even though the mark up is ridiculous and that's what's truly hurting the numbers...
 

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I dont think were getting an 11th gen until 2021 or 2022. The only way ill consider trading in for a mid cycle refresh is if they offered the Si as a hatch,
If they offered an Si hatch, I'd be in there tomorrow lol my buddy at work has the ex-l hatch and even as little as it may be...that little extra room feels a lot bigger
 

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If they offered an Si hatch, I'd be in there tomorrow lol my buddy at work has the ex-l hatch and even as little as it may be...that little extra room feels a lot bigger
Same and aside from the space I just feel like the hatch looks so much better imagine if it was an Si.
 

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If the Si came in a hatch i too would have already bought one. And the funny thing is i don't normally like hatches at all, i like sedans!
 
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If the Si came in a hatch i too would have already bought one. And the funny thing is i don't normally like hatches at all, i like sedans!
Yeah I’d love a hatchback Si but it would surely take away from Type R sales.
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