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2019 Civic Sport 6MT - Sedan or Coupe?

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Now I'm looking at Si's on some sales websites and they are advertising for $2500-$3K more than a Sport 6MT. Must. Resist. The. Urge. Haha. My research continues.....
These are the following differences an Si has, I copied and pasted from another post.

  • engine output increased to 205 HP @ 5,700 RPM (SAE net) and 192 lb-ft torque @ 2,100-5,000 RPM (SAE net)
  • higher maximum boost pressure (20.3 vs. 16.5 PSI)
  • lower compression ratio (10.3:1 vs. 10.6:1)
  • higher-capacity MHI TD025 turbocharger (9-vane vs. 11-vane)
  • helical limited-slip differential
  • larger front brake rotors (12.3" vs. 11.1" vented front and 11.1" vs. 10.2" solid rear)
  • two-mode damper system with normal and firm settings
  • SPORT mode replaces ECON mode - increases suspension damping, reduces power steering assist, increases throttle sensitivity, and raises the activation threshold of the Vehicle Stability Assist system
  • 235/40R18 91W tires vs. 215/50R17 91H
  • 7% stiffer front spring rate
  • 18% stiffer front upper damper mounts
  • 7% stiffer front stabilizer bar rate
  • 32% stiffer rear spring rate
  • Solid vs. fluid-filled front and rear compliance bushings (rear shared with the Type R)
  • High-stiffness rear upper control arms (shared with the Type R)
  • 26% stiffer rear stabilizer bar rate
  • Si-specific seats with thicker side bolsters, non-adjustable headrests, and stitched "Si" logos
  • red interior stitching, gauges, and Display Audio color scheme
  • black headliner and pillar trim vs. gray in EX-T
  • front and rear facias similar to the hatchback
  • center-mounted polygonal exhaust outlet
  • higher-flowing intake system
  • 23% higher-flowing exhaust system
  • aluminum clutch, brake, and accelerator pedals
  • carbon fiber-look interior trim
  • 10% shorter shifter throw
  • leather-wrapped, aluminum shift knob
  • revised shift linkage
  • increased rigidity of shifter bracket mount
  • 450-watt audio system (same as EX-T coupe vs. 180-watt in EX-T sedan)
  • additional items in Driver Information Display including G-force meter, turbo boost gauge with PSI indication, lap timer, throttle percentage, and brake pressure
  • leather-wrapped steering wheel, shift boot, and shift knob
  • premium fuel recommended
  • tire repair kit including sealant and a 12-volt inflator replaces the compact, temporary spare
  • vanity mirrors are non-illuminated vs. illuminated
  • EPA fuel economy ratings of 28/38/32 city/highway/combined vs. 31/42/3
  • optional summer tires
  • stronger rods



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All prices MSRP:
LX Coupe - CVT Only $20,650
LX Sedan - Manual $19,450/CVT $20,250
Sport Coupe/Sedan/Hatch -
- Coupe Manual/CVT $21,450/$22,250
- Sedan Manual/CVT $21,150/$21,950
- Hatch Manual/CVT $22,250/$23,250
SI Coupe/Sedan - $24,300
My favorite out of all these is the SI Sedan, which you can prob get around 23K. 2nd favorite is Sport Hatch Manual, prob $21K. 3rd favorite is Sport Sedan Manual, prob 20K. There are so many choices I can't keep track AT ALL.
 

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Kinda in the same boat here. Been shopping manual coupes, and the local dealer has a leftover 18 LX coupe 6MT for 18k. But I really do like the 19 sport models. I loved the Honda Sensing when test driving. And the armrests don't have that funky, scratchy fabric. More like fake leather, which is an improvement. Anyway, not having Sensing is almost a deal breaker. If one could get a 6MT Sport Sedan or Coupe for 18-19k it would be hard to turn down. Maybe by the end of this year?
 

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No, not at all. BMW lease residual values are hyper inflated meaning that a buy out of it would be wayyyyy more than what you could buy the exact year model used for. For example, the residual on my car was $33K after 3 years but the actual wholesale value of it after those 3 years was $24k. The modification I did was bolt ons (wheels/tires, M Performance BBK, downpipe, intercooler, tune, etc) so when it was close to the time to turn it in I went back to stock and sold the old parts. Of course I didn't get what I paid for them but it was around 50% or so when all was said and done. The difference I just chalked up to the loss every car guy takes when modding and then selling parts and also to the fun I had with it modified for those almost 3 years.
BMW most have some serious mark-up to absorb a $9k loss or maybe they're banking on getting you into another lease since you're business owner.

I'm not a fan of the 1.5T, but $3k difference for the Si is tempting. In Canada, it'd be more like $9k difference (mainly because Canadian LX has android auto, Heated seat and 6MT).
 

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Kinda in the same boat here. Been shopping manual coupes, and the local dealer has a leftover 18 LX coupe 6MT for 18k. But I really do like the 19 sport models. I loved the Honda Sensing when test driving. And the armrests don't have that funky, scratchy fabric. More like fake leather, which is an improvement. Anyway, not having Sensing is almost a deal breaker. If one could get a 6MT Sport Sedan or Coupe for 18-19k it would be hard to turn down. Maybe by the end of this year?
I like the fabric on my 6mt Sedan. after 90k, it still looks like new and no inching. Also, would hate the plastic stuff on a hot day (I suspect the fabric stuff is more expensive then fake leather). Also, US no-longer offers 6MT in LX trim, so you're going to spend noticeably more then $18k to get a 6MT.
 

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Kinda in the same boat here. Been shopping manual coupes, and the local dealer has a leftover 18 LX coupe 6MT for 18k. But I really do like the 19 sport models. I loved the Honda Sensing when test driving. And the armrests don't have that funky, scratchy fabric. More like fake leather, which is an improvement. Anyway, not having Sensing is almost a deal breaker. If one could get a 6MT Sport Sedan or Coupe for 18-19k it would be hard to turn down. Maybe by the end of this year?
I think an 18 LX Coupe Manual for 18K would be a good deal but you should be able to get a 19 LX Sedan Manual for about the same price. Still, if you must have the Coupe Manual maybe the 18 is worth it?
 
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