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Exactly... instead of thinking of the 1.5T being better than the 2.4 Si we should be excited at how much better the 10th gen Si will be with a turbo and better power figures. Dethrone the VW GTI as the "affordable" compact sports car i'd say assuming the Si will have the same levels of refinement and quality as the regular civics have shown us.Goes to show that the next Si is going to be insane even if numbers are only 220 hp and 220 lb of torque.
Did your 3rd gear test include the time it took for the SI driver to downshift into 3rd or was that downshift performed before the timed race began?...
We first tried a roll on test with the Si in 6th gear. No contest. Then we tried the Si in 5th. Still no contest. 4th was not going to cut it, so we ran the next test in third; the lowest gear we could use for the speed we were cruising at. This is where the Si was not left to far behind in the side mirror, and the clip we used for the video, showing the Si at its best.
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This was a great post... thanks for that info... working at a Honda dealership in South Florida, I can certainly tell that the 1.5T for sure pulls harder than my old '06 Si (freak engine)... sadly not as exciting with the limited manual controls... but still impressive and gets your back planted into the seat... i can't wait to see what you guys come up with and i'm really interested to see the dyno results...The tests we ran were real world. At some point we will get both vehicles to the drag strip, but on the streets, the EX Turbo is the faster car - and we own both a 10th Gen EX and 9th Gen Si.
We first tried a roll on test with the Si in 6th gear. No contest. Then we tried the Si in 5th. Still no contest. 4th was not going to cut it, so we ran the next test in third; the lowest gear we could use for the speed we were cruising at. This is where the Si was not left too far behind in the side mirror, and the clip we used for the video, showing the Si at its best.
We then had an impromptu standing start test with the EX in Eco mode. The Si spun its wheels off the line getting the jump. By halfway through third gear the EX had caught up and passed the Si.
The EX could do with a limited slip differential. It tends to spin the inside wheel while cornering with moderate boost.
Take this away from the tests. The EX turbo is a great car as it comes from the factory with great tuning potential. My hat goes off to Honda. They have made a car with fantastic power and better economy than any Honda car we have driven.
Thanks. It sounds like the SI had a more than level playing field since the time it would have taken to manually downshift from a cruising gear to an acceleration gear wasn't included in the test.The Si 3rd gear test started with the Si already in third gear so all we had to do was press the accelerators.
The tests we ran were real world. At some point we will get both vehicles to the drag strip, but on the streets, the EX Turbo is the faster car - and we own both a 10th Gen EX and 9th Gen Si.
We first tried a roll on test with the Si in 6th gear. No contest. Then we tried the Si in 5th. Still no contest. 4th was not going to cut it, so we ran the next test in third; the lowest gear we could use for the speed we were cruising at. This is where the Si was not left too far behind in the side mirror, and the clip we used for the video, showing the Si at its best.
We then had an impromptu standing start test with the EX in Eco mode. The Si spun its wheels off the line getting the jump. By halfway through third gear the EX had caught up and passed the Si.
The EX could do with a limited slip differential. It tends to spin the inside wheel while cornering with moderate boost.
Take this away from the tests. The EX turbo is a great car as it comes from the factory with great tuning potential. My hat goes off to Honda. They have made a car with fantastic power and better economy than any Honda car we have driven.
That's great news! Finally someone stepping up with some tuning.We are well under way towards a product and making headway daily. We too, are of the impression that the bank for the tuning buck should be much better the 9th Gen Civic and that the FlashPro will lead the list of must have parts.