nicholas beckford
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In the "forum" world prices may go up. But in the retail "real" world 9th gen prices crashedRob, I hope you are right brother.. The 9th gens also didnt have a Turbo or dual exhaust. I have a good feeling the 17 Si is going to put down 250+ HP. Needing a big brake kits and alot of other extras driving it to 27k+.. The cool thing is when this happens the old 9th gens value will go up. Actually the last couple months the remaining 15 Civic Si were bringing MSRP+. I would say by mid summer used 14/15s should bring 20k all day long and all the 12/13s in the high 16k to 18k range.
Honda already had a 2.0L that put out 240hp without a turbo. What makes you think that adding a turbo would result in 10 less?My thought is that the Si will be closer to 230 horsepower.
If we use the base civic 1.5T as an example. Those have dual exhaust, and a turbo yet the price increase over the comparably equipped 9th gen models was modest a $1000 roughly from 9th gen EX to 10th gen EXT. Also looking at the amount of power gained for the 1.5T over the old 1.8 being 30 horsepower we can assume the Si will follow suit. No more than $1000 price increase over the 9th gen Si models and about 230 horsepower but way more torque than the old 2.4L would make for a competitive Si that still meets the Si mantra of affordable speed. That also leaves a healthy gap for the Type R in terms of price and power as to not cannibalize sales of either model as well as leave space for the next gen ILX to be priced over the Si but still in the entry level luxury segment with a potential upper tier ILX pricing out above the Type R.
I'm sorry, a 2.0L that put out 240 in an Si???? don't think so... The civic, whether it be in Si or base trim guise is still an economy car. That 10 horsepower could mean 1-2mpg on the new Si...even more so because of the turbo... it could also mean less emissions. The same 2.0T going into the Si also makes 300+ in the Type R... but the Si isn't making those numbers... .the 1.5T in the base cars is capable of upwards of 220hp... just because honda has another engine, in a different car, that makes higher power means literally ZERO to the power output of the 2.0T in the new Si.... it's all about a balance of fuel mileage, performance, emissions and price points. Adding the turbo isn't about more power alone, it's about added fuel efficiency and giving the car more torque than the N/A 2.0 engines.Honda already had a 2.0L that put out 240hp without a turbo. What makes you think that adding a turbo would result in 10 less?