12K to 15K over MSRP.

[slowride]

The only changes I can see would me minor cosmetics and minor things with interior. And I mean very small things if anything.

Tell that to people who bought the 2012 Civic

The other most major change I can remember is the addition of VSA from 2006 to 2007 Si.

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[17siturb0]

Tell that to people who bought the 2012 Civic

The other most major change I can remember is the addition of VSA from 2006 to 2007 Si.

That's because the 2012 and 13 got majorly shit on. More so 12 then 13. If you think different, tell us what you think they will end up changing.

 

[slowride]

I have no idea, but I am simply pointing out that they have done some significant changes in the past and nothing says they won't again.

 

[17siturb0]

I have no idea, but I am simply pointing out that they have done some significant changes in the past and nothing says they won't again.

Most complaints are volume knobs, and cosmetics. There's nothing drastic they can really change, these cars are practically fully loaded from the factory now. Not going to argue with you, my strong 0.2

 

[Katastrophe]

ADM LOL...

Some dealerships are so sleazy...then again, some people are just stupid. People with money to burn ruin it for the rest of us.

Both an SI and Type R should be bought at or under MSRP...just like any other car.

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