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  1. Theory..Honda is smart?

    Sellers start at 27-29K but, if you look at current for sale listings, they then start cutting the price when they don't sell at the initial ask. For example - http://www.motors.co.uk/car-44384228/?i=0&m=spf
  2. Rumors of 2nd wave, allocations, and inventory replenishment

    The Swindon plant is a modern multi-model automotive production line devoted exclusively to Civic hatchback variants that currently can produce 150,000 cars a year. That translates to approximately 600 cars a day. https://www.hondamanufacturing.co.uk/our_plants/car-manufacturing/ Side Note -...
  3. More Civic Type R Variants Are Coming!

    It's praiseworthy for Honda to give the public a direct quote upon the release of the CTR letting consumers know that this will not be a limited run, limited production variant. This looks like Honda's way of telling us..."You don't have to pay ridiculous amounts over MSRP to get a CTR". Since...
  4. Honda Civic Type-R Over sticker dealer naughty list.

    The ITR was a sales flop. Honda even went a whole model year without bringing a single one to the US to allow time for dealers to sell the inventory that was collecting dust on the showroom floors. It was (most likely) at least partially this experience that kept Honda from bringing any new...
  5. Honda Civic Type-R Over sticker dealer naughty list.

    Following these threads, it appears that dealers have made at least 10 contradictory statements about purchasing a CTR. This latest dodge of dealers "buying" the first CTR and keeping it in the showroom fits in with something told to xA_Cole a few days back -...
  6. Sensing technology on the R

    At best this is overly dramatic. Anyone who has ever been to a track day with amateur drivers has seen numerous incidents of ill-timed and inappropriate braking all done by a sensing system that cannot be banned...the human brain. Even if a driver were to leave a sensing system on, if the...
  7. Civic Type R actual demand

    Actually it IS impossible to get a Type-R right now, now matter how much money you have to spend, since Honda has not released any for sale! As to the exclusivity comparison, I have to admit that I don't get it. The 911R story begins with Porsche creating the Porsche VIP club as an "exclusive"...
  8. Officially Revealed: 2017 Honda Civic Type R with 306 hp / 295 lb-ft

    A better place to look at the numbers is with the Type-R competitors. One would expect the Type-R to compete against the Focus RS, Golf R and Subaru STI. You can Google figures for Ford and VW. Ford is averaging RS sales of 500/month and that number is increasing monthly. The Golf R is averaging...
  9. Officially Revealed: 2017 Honda Civic Type R with 306 hp / 295 lb-ft

    After a Honda Type-R meeting for dealers, one says 1500/year while another says 3600/year....I think someone may have misplaced the bulls**t. Since the two posters reporting these dealer communications are close to each other I'm assuming both dealers were at the same meeting. Repeating a post...
  10. Honda Civic Type-R Over sticker dealer naughty list.

    One theory.....the Integra Type-R was a US sales bust and American Honda adopted a "once burned, twice saved philosophy". Sales of the Integra Type-R were well under 100/month for 1997 and 1998 and American Honda requested that no 1999's be sent here so the remaining 1998 inventory could be sold...
  11. Honda Civic Type-R Over sticker dealer naughty list.

    Here - http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2015/4/12/There-s-More-Good-And-Bad-News-About-The-US-Honda-Civic-Type-R-7726389/ The initial rollout of Type-R's should be hectic. We will know about real world availability once the 2018 MY starts.
  12. Honda Civic Type-R Over sticker dealer naughty list.

    Dealers are in business to get the maximum profit from each car...Honda is in business to sell the maximum number of cars. Dealer personnel say 1500/year.....the executive VP of American Honda said he hopes to sell several thousand a month. At the risk of slightly overstating reality, dealers...
  13. Civic Type R debuts in US at AutoCon. Claimed to be faster than 1st gen GT-R !

    Could be......I assumed the 7:43 time since the previous gen Type-R also beat the 7:54 time.
  14. Civic Type R debuts in US at AutoCon. Claimed to be faster than 1st gen GT-R !

    It is likelier that this is referring to the 7:43.65 done by Sascha Bert in a GT-R in November 2010. Still a really good time!
  15. Any Sense Of How Many CTRs Each Dealer Will Get?

    I don't think you fully understand how a modern automobile production line works. The Swindon plant is a good example of a multi-model production line that can (in it's current configuration) output 150,000 cars a year. When Honda's manufacturing plans are complete (end of 2017) this facility...
  16. Any Sense Of How Many CTRs Each Dealer Will Get?

    You have to think like an auto executive. The Type-R is not the Honda Corp "Halo" car. That role is fulfilled by the NSX. The Civic brand is tied to reliability and value and the Type-R is the sporting representative of that. We would need to bring in a Honda Exec for a final answer, but I don't...
  17. Any Sense Of How Many CTRs Each Dealer Will Get?

    Why does everyone think that the Executive VP of American Honda was lying when he said Honda hopes to sell “a couple thousand a month” and promised there would be no cap on sales? Honda is in business to maximize profits/shareholders return on investment and will only make/sell Civic variants...


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