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  1. Honda Civic Type-R Over sticker dealer naughty list.

    Honda of the avenues RR '19 for $5k ADM. I just don't get it...(FWIW, I do get it from a profit motive perspective but that is damned close to highway robbery.)
  2. Help me decide--2019 CTR or 2018 M2?

    I would tend to think this would apply to the CTR as well, given the platform and the amount of horsepower. Someone earlier compared the CTR with the ms3, saying the CTR was a refined version of the latter. I could see that with a judicious throttle input, one could go very fast in both cars...
  3. CTR at (or below?!!) sticker NICE LIST!

    Invoice for '19s is $34.6k, iirc. Many are getting that. Me, no success yet.
  4. CTR at (or below?!!) sticker NICE LIST!

    I'm really surprised most dealers are at or above MSRP for '19s. I've contacted NUMEROUS dealers and the best I got was $36xxx + ttl. I was looking for $37k out the door. Evidently, not happening...
  5. Honda Civic Type-R Over sticker dealer naughty list.

    Pensacola Honda, Billion Honda (Iowa City, IA), Superior Honda (Cincy) all are over MSRP for 2019s! Virtually NO ONE I've spoken with today has been willing to go below MSRP. WTF?
  6. Trying to decide--2019 CTR vs 2018 M2

    I disagree. Look at the number of people who have looked at both. There are obvious differences but the overall performance is close enough to be comparable. You may see them in different categories but I see them as competitors. I appreciate your input.
  7. Help me decide--2019 CTR or 2018 M2?

    About reliability, from my experience, there is a direct relationship between how hard you are on a car (mods, anyone?) and the reliability. Any make.
  8. Help me decide--2019 CTR or 2018 M2?

    First, an '18 is NOT an M2C. Second, that was very basic and opinionated material disguised as impartial. Third, you have no reason for your opinion, grandma.
  9. Help me decide--2019 CTR or 2018 M2?

    Absolutely no constructive input. Thanks for trying!
  10. Help me decide--2019 CTR or 2018 M2?

    Care to explain for the rest of the class?
  11. Help me decide--2019 CTR or 2018 M2?

    Thank you so much for that comparison. That gives me a reference point I was missing. Do you think it is all down to the Max Perf Summer tires? Or, is it the overall handling, as evidenced by similar handling on all seasons/winter tires?
  12. Looking To Go FBO Soon

    Why in the world would you want an SSK for this car? That is definitely one that can be skipped. The only thing shorter I can think of were the Formula Fords and other open wheel cars I've raced...
  13. Help me decide--2019 CTR or 2018 M2?

    Interesting take. I really appreciate your time. It's a little apples to oranges in the CTR/M4 comparison but what is the understeer like, head to head? What about having to wait to get into the throttle in the CTR vs M4 or other RWD cars?
  14. Help me decide--2019 CTR or 2018 M2?

    The c43 is the wife's car. I used to do a lot of racing years ago, so I love to drive and put my cars through their paces,getting the most I legally can on the street. I don't want something like my former MS3, which the CTR is. VASTLY refined version of. That's what I'm facing. Hopefully...
  15. Help me decide--2019 CTR or 2018 M2?

    Why would you not daily your M2? This will be our 2nd car, not a primary people/kid hauler. That's what the C43 is for...:D
  16. Dealers who ONLY sell at MSRP

    On a cursory search, there was a black '19 in MI, IIRC for $34.6k. I'm hoping to get one closer to home (Louisville, KY) for that price or slightly lower. Maybe ask for $36k out the door. With so many available, get a bunch of dealers in a bidding war. Just be willing to ship, if it comes to...
  17. Help me decide--2019 CTR or 2018 M2?

    (Accidentally posted this in the wrong forum before...) Help me decide between these two. Coming from a 2018 Focus RS (God rest her soul) that was tremendous fun. FWIW, this will be my DD and possibly see some track or autox time. I test drove the CTR yesterday. Fast, tossable, great...
  18. Trying to decide--2019 CTR vs 2018 M2

    Help me decide between these two. Coming from a 2018 Focus RS (God rest her soul) that was tremendous fun. FWIW, this will be my DD and possibly see some track or autox time. I test drove the CTR yesterday. Fast, tossable, great steering and transmission. It feels, in a straight line, like...


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