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Agreed, 2.0T looks like a lock :thumbsup: But the date to me seems much less like speculation now that the chief technology officer at Honda R&D said that the engine is coming to the Civic in March. Seems like we should expect the Si to launch Spring 2016. :bow:

Exactly. These are not official and not confirmed by anyone at Honda. It's his speculations as well. And that's a real big date range to hedge his bets against :) I think I'm just hoping that the timing is wrong and it comes earlier, like Summer 2016.

Well this could be talking bout the standard non-Si models with 1.5L turbo. The Si could still get the 2.0L Turbo as latest rumors are all saying. :headbang: It's never really been in doubt that the Si would get a manual, but I'm still hoping that the Si gets an additional transmission option

Even 3-4 pounds light wheels makes a difference on the butt dyno. I'm with the guys that think the Si will carry an equipment level similar to the EX-T model, but not as optioned out as the Touring.

The silver trim above the doors adds a hint of luxury to the sedan, I think it works really well. They should offer a blacked out version for the coupe IMO.

Some info or teaser at least does feel kinda overdue now... Or at least parade around a prototype so we can see some spy pics.

And you can go longer between oil changes.

They're not going to change the body design at this point since the standard hatchback is going to be revealed in March probably. And the photoshop was based directly on a clear image of the prototype so this should be very close to what the CivicX 2017 Type R will look like. I do miss the wedge...

CLEAN.

Lol there are many cars that could beat a Civic from a light. I think the point is it's been a while since a regular Civic (not Si or Type R) has been described as anything close to speedy, fast, or good acceleration. You're basically getting the last generation Si's acceleration for the price...

Type R or Type S ILX could be a fun car paired with the DCT. But a 2016 Civic sedan Type R with DCT would perform better and be even better looking. :love:

Fair point but tuning suspension/chassis settings and offering already existing transmissions to adapt for US market is easier, less costly, and less costly than bringing Type R in a new body style. But I agree, Europe tends to get cooler cars. We sometimes get nerfed versions or not at all.

Exactly. The Civic X could looks like it's wearing a body kit already in stock form. The coupe will need 18 inch wheels to look proportionally good. Wonder if there will be 18" accessory wheels eventually. I think with the more substantial looking coupe and sedan bodies they need 18's, and also...

The Si may get a bit more mainstream from getting an auto transmission but otherwise I think they'll position it the same relative to the standard models. The Type R is tougher to predict since this is the first time they'll introduce it to the US market, which will likely be its biggest...

Of course a 2.0T will fit. The engine compartment looks tight in the pics but a 2.0L NA engine already fits so no reason a 2.0L turbo engine won't fit.

Call me nuts but I think the production coupe might look better from the side than the concept. With the production bumpers it actually has tighter looking overhangs and looks more compact overall.

Did they say how many are already on their list? If anyone decides to get on a list with a deposit, just remember to make sure it's a refundable deposit.

Call me crazy but the chrome stuff has started to grow on me. I probably still prefer a black chrome but the silver chrome doesn't look as bad to me anymore. Maybe it's just the coupe's great styling making it look better?

Cannibalization is only bad (from Honda's perspective) if it leads to less sales and profit. Making more versions of each body type like an Si hatch and Type R coupe can only lead to more sales overall and success for this new generation, no?

So no break in period. Awesome.