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Honda Civic 10th gen Fatherpain’s 2018 Type R 60093D6B-C24B-473B-B835-226283D2B844
It Remove these hoses from the thermostat and it’s housing. The housing bolts are long and just need to be backed out. They can remain in the housing as it just needs to be pulled back about (1) inch to get the water pipe out.


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This bolt securing the water pipe to the thermostat housing was pulled earlier.


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Pry the thermostat housing back to obtain clearance for the water pipe to clear. Use a pry bar to separate the pipe from the housing.


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And out it comes.


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The other end was a little stubborn so sprayed some penetrant to help loosen it up.


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Voila! OEM water pipe removed ?
 
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The sealing surface where the water pipe contacts the thermostat housing had a build up of a hard scale that resembled pitting.


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So scuffed it with some 240 grit sandpaper


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Smooth again. :)


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Transfer this metal thimble and rubber grommet from the OEM water pipe to the new one. I forgot to do this so had to redo, once I realized my mistake. This cannot be done in place. :doh:


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Kroil or WD40 will help with pressing the grommet off.


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Grommet and thimble removed. Ready to reuse.


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Dream hard lagged water pipe and (2) new o-rings.


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It’s good practice to apply o-ring lube for longevity and ease of installation.


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O-rings installed to the new pipe.


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Insert the pipe into the fixed drive belt end.


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Then line up this end to the guide pin.


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Use an acid brush to apply o-ring lube to the thermostat housing rubber seal.


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This is a photo from my first attempt. Had the grommet been there, I’d have screwed the bolt back in.


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Woohoo! Dream Automotive hard lagged water pipe installed! That previously missed grommet and bolt are in place now. Won’t bore with the reassembly details which is just the reverse of what I’ve posted.

Just remember to apply anti-seize to any fasteners and tighten everything evenly and snug. Bolts don’t need to be killed where they strip aluminum. I asked my Honda tech nephew about torque settings and he said they just go by feel, so that’s what I did. Hopefully no leaks when I’m done, or I’ll be back under the hood again ?

This is a pretty involved process to swap the water pipe. More so than anticipated when I picked this up several months back. Am glad it’s finally in and fully expect the temperature gauge not to move off normal next time I hit the track. We’ll see.
 
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With the water pipe odyssey complete, had some momentum so moved to reinstall the factory turbo wrapped in the Dream Automotive hard lagged heat shield. I had previously secured the cladding using (2) 8mm x .125 allen head screws with flat washers. Had to re-use this gasket as it also is currently unavailable for purchase. Cleaned up both sides of it and discarded this paper towel.


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Fished the turbo into position and began bolting in on. The damaged DP stud was machined out and replaced with a Rampage Ti.


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Unfortunately, I was unable to get this final bolt started due to interference from the lagging.


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Had to disconnect the waste gate linkage to allow for more adjustment, so made some match marks in case it were to spin or whatever.


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Loosened the actuator bolts using an Allen wrench.


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And backed them out this much, to create a gap for the actuator. No need to completely remove.


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The wastegate linkage easily slides off with the retaining pin removed combined with the actuator play.


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Was then able to maneuver the cladding back enough for the bolt to start and tighten using a 14mm combo.


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Then encountered an issue with the shield material hitting the top left stud, preventing this bolt hole from lining up. :confused:


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Tried to lightly persuade it. And though it looks good here, the bolt hole still wouldn't line up. Solution was to undo the 2nd Allen bolt underneath (not pictured). Once free, was able to get the top bolt started, then redid the bottom bolt to secure the cladding.


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The heat shield then rubbed against the wastegate arm, so used a flat screwdriver (a punch would have been better) and hammer to move it away so the arm could move freely.


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Used a new gasket for the water lines going to the turbo.


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And this new gasket as well. The O-rings for oil lines are not available. I opted to reuse, though it probably would be easy enough to source the correct sized O-ring.


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Re-secured the wastegate actuator, linkage and pin. The (2) top and bottom Allen head bolts holding the hard lagging in place are clearly visible in this photo. Reinstalled the hoses and turbo support bracket.

Dream Automotive hard lagged turbo heat shield installation also complete. :thumbsup:
 
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Thank you @chrisspeedy. Apologize on the slow progress and updates.

I get in trouble with the family, when spending too much time working on the car, so have to strategically pick and choose when to do it.

Due to the arcade collection, wrenching on the car in the garage is a no go…. So the car is staged outside and weather is a factor. Don’t have much motivation when the weather is hot.

Mornings are my preferred time to mod. My energy level is highest, temps are cool and there aren’t as many mosquitoes. However my wife started working nights to save for our kids college funds. Morning is when she’s home, so that time frame kinda got nixed. 😢

Started this round of mods back in August and I’m just plodding along….it’s hard to find time between family, work and extracurriculars to devote the time needed to make serious progress, but hey, I’ve fixed the refrigerator, washing machine and the shower valve. Wouldn’t hear the end of it, if time was spent modding while those weren’t working.:rolleyes:

Hoping to resume tonight, if the weather isn’t too hot. Wish me luck ?


I like how detailed this build thread is, I am excited to see the outcome.
 
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Prior to the FK8, my automotive repair experience was limited to occasional oil changes, even though I was a mechanic at a power plant….

With that in mind… this next mod is to change out the oil pan to a Unit2 Fabrication baffled oil pain… err pan :drool:

To be clear, this oil pan looks like a great product. Workmanship is beautiful and promises to prevent oil starvation under hard track driving. My tuner, Ben (Salasko Racing) says a baffled oil pan is a very worthwhile investment for a track build. :cool:


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A look at the OEM oil pan. Interestingly, this mod, combined with the OEM water pipe upgrade draws upon pretty much everything I’ve learned modding the FK8 to this point (and then some). From this vantage point, the RV6 front pipe needs to come out along with the Hasport RMM. The Dream Downpipe was previously pulled for the water pipe install.


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The HKS oil cooler sandwich plate and filter will need to come off, as will the serpentine (alternator) belt and AC condenser motor. What the heck have I gotten myself into? I knew there was as a subconscious reason I’ve been procrastinating on these installs, haha :doh:
 
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Prior to the FK8, my automotive repair experience was limited to occasional oil changes, even though I was a mechanic at a power plant….

With that in mind… this next mod is to change out the oil pan to a Unit2 Fabrication baffled oil pain… err pan :drool:

To be clear, this oil pan looks like a great product. Workmanship is beautiful and it promises to prevent oil starvation under hard track driving. My tuner says a baffled oil pan is a very worthwhile investment for a track build. :cool:


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A look at the OEM oil pan. Interestingly, this mod, combined with the OEM water pipe upgrade draws upon pretty much everything I’ve learned modding the FK8 to this point (and then some). From this vantage point, the RV6 front pipe needs to come out along with the Hasport RMM. The Dream Downpipe was previously pulled for the water pipe install.


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The HKS oil cooler sandwich plate and filter will need to come off, as will the serpentine (alternator) belt and AC condenser motor. What the heck have I gotten myself into? I knew there was as a subconscious reason I’ve been procrastinating on these installs, haha :doh:
You have literally perfected this car which perfect to begin with
 
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Where to begin? Sheesh… might as well start at the top! ?


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Gotta get the Radium CCV catch can out of the way, to access the belt tensioner on the Serpentine belt. Disregard this step if do not have this mod.


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The purpose of the belt tensioner is to release tension, so the belt can be removed from the pulley. I’ve marked it in blue. Figured out how to do this watching YouTube. :bow:


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This is a close up look at the belt tensioner.


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Another angle. The idea is to rotate this forward towards the front of the car and the belt tension will release… it only needs to be moved maybe (1) flat or so. It’s spring loaded so will go back to it’s starting position when released. There isn’t room to use a ratchet and socket… so will need to use a modified thin breaker bar, or (2) combination wrenches. Size is 17mm


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This is the method I used…box end of the 17mm combo wrench on the tensioner hex… then the box end of a 2nd combo grabbing the open jaw to serve as an extension to give the needed leverage. This was the starting point, at rest.


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This is how much is needed to pull to release the tension. Be careful not to pull too far and damage the AC line.


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With the tensioner pulled back, carefully slide the belt off the pulley.
Ideally, use a long flat screwdriver to move the belt and not fingers that can be severed if something were to go wrong ?

Leave the belt like this and don’t remove… note how the belt is routed on the pulleys so it can be put back correctly. Just in case :headbang:


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Then remove this turbo piping and silicone hose to the intercooler and disconnect the rubber turbo oil line to the pan.
 
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Removed the un-tensioned serpentine belt from the AC compressor pulley also.


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Back underneath, these (2) bolts securing the AC compressor to the oil pan need to be removed.


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Like this.


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There are (2) additional bolts on top of the AC Compressor that are difficult to reach. Here is one of them. Opted to back out and not fully remove as didn’t want to yank the condenser and a real tough spot to reinstall if completely removed.

Update: it would have been much easier to pull the bolts after all. The AC compressor sits on a shelf that serves as a hook. Undo the compressor bolts, lift off the shelf then the compressor can be pulled away to give room to pull the oil pan, or it will fight you. This absolutely needs to be done on reinstall.


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Here is the 2nd upper AC compressor bolt. Can see and access it through the passenger fake vent opening using an extension and 12mm universal socket


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Close up of the rat bastard.


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Used a tweaker to slide the orange lock tab on the AC compressor electrical harness.


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Then depressed and disconnected the plug to be safe.


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Removed the oil filter.


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Then pulled the HKS oil cooler sandwich plate. The retaining bolt takes a 19mm socket. Torque setting is 47 ft-lbs when time to reinstall.

imagine anyone considering this mod would also have an oil cooler.
 
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Removed all the small bolts holding the oil pan to the engine block using a 10mm socket, ratchet and extension. Note: (2) are shorter than the others. Didn’t notice until they were all out, so will have to check to see which ones when reassemble.


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This particular bolt used an extension and thin walled 10mm deep socket.


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This one used an extension, regular 10mm socket and universal adapte


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This cover is held on by (2) bolts and needs to come off.


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Like this.


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With the cover out of the way, these (2) bolts can now be accessed. Continued until all of the small bolts were removed from the oil pan.
 
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Disconnected the RV6 front pipe from the exhaust piping.


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In order to move the FP down and out of the way.


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The RMM also needed to come off. The pin used a 19mm socket.


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And 17mm socket here.


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Lifted the engine a little and wiggled the RMM out. Here is the Hasport 62A after about 20k miles of service. A little dirty but still in good shape. :headbang:


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With the RMM out of the way, used a 14mm socket to remove the RMM bracket because there is a bolt behind it that needs to come off.


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With the RMM bracket removed can now see and reach it.


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These last (4) bolts holding the oil pan to the side could then be removed using a 14mm socket.
 
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Verified all oil pan bolts removed. Inserted a pry bar Into this recessed notch and gently broke the Honda bond seal and pried the pan away from the engine. Was careful not to mar and damage the soft aluminum faces.


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The oil pan didn’t just separate and pop off. It required a bit of patience and finesse as it sandwiches the engine with the turbo oil line on one side and the AC Condenser on the other.


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Whoa ? the eagle finally landed! :thumbsup:
There was a small amount of oil remaining in the pan and it did not spill. More importantly there were no metal flakes or chips in the pan. :headbang:


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OEM oil pan removed!!! Yeah baby yeah!!

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Wow the pictures are amazing. Do you have any of the vacuum pump? was quite curious of how all the looks under the covers.

If selling the oem oil pan let me know!
 
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Here you go Taylor. Hopefully I put it back together correctly and it still works. ?


Wow the pictures are amazing. Do you have any of the vacuum pump? was quite curious of how all the looks under the covers.
 
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Honda Civic 10th gen Fatherpain’s 2018 Type R C9DD2E69-B39F-4651-ABEC-9E2EFCA2C210

Under view of the engine with oil pan removed.


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Note the chain linkage on the passenger side.


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Found the AC compressor needs to be pulled back for the new pan to fit. Doing this first, would have made removing the old pan much easier.


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One of the two AC compressor top bolts to remove. This is the easy to reach one.

The lower bolts were already taken off and electrical connector separated. Note the jigsaw bracket the compressor rests on.


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Accessed the harder to reach top AC compressor bolt through the passenger vent. Size is 12mm. Another way would be to pull the radiator for more space, but didn’t find it necessary.


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Looking down at the final top bolt completely loose and backed out.


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AC compressor lifted off the jigsaw bracket and pulled towards the front of the car.


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Used daisy chained zip ties to hold the compressor out of the way.


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The old yellow sealant could be clearly seen. The pan doesn’t have a traditional gasket.


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Used a fresh razor blade to scrape the old silicone off and clean the sealing surface. Sprayed with contact cleaner and wiped off with a paper towel afterwards.
 
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