We needI'm not sure I agree that tuning the Si will put it close to the G37s...
I'm actually interested to see if the SI with a tune could keep up with a G37, you gotta keep in mind that the G37 is a pretty heavy vehicle compared to the civic but I honestly couldn't say for sure how the civic would stack up.I'm not sure I agree that tuning the Si will put it close to the G37s...
Yeah trading cars in you get significantly less than you would from selling...I traded my 2010 G37 in for my Type R. The G37 was a great car, I believe it had around 70,000 miles on it when I traded it in. I owned it for about 4 years and never had any issues with it. Changing the oil was really easy as the oil filter and drain plug are very accessible.
I wish I would have tried to sell it rather than trade it in, the dealership sold it within 3 days of me trading it in. They are very popular.
I bought a pair of ramps and did all the maintenance myself. There are two screws you remove to swing a piece of plastic out of the way and the filter and drain plug are right there for you to access. I never had to take mine in to a shop for any work (besides new tires).Yeah trading cars in you get significantly less than you would from selling...
How was the maintenance cost on that g37? Sounds like it was low maintenance and fairly inexpensive to upkeep.
If you look at the 1/4 mile numbers posted on these forums and the g35/37/350z/370z forums, I think a fairly moderately tuned si can beat a stock g37 on 1/4. On a road course I think the g37 would be faster just by the fat tires and rwd, but it wouldn't be like a gigantic difference. Driver skill would be the difference at that point.We need
I'm actually interested to see if the SI with a tune could keep up with a G37, you gotta keep in mind that the G37 is a pretty heavy vehicle compared to the civic but I honestly couldn't say for sure how the civic would stack up.
But this is all probably adding some other modifications on the Si (not just a tune). So whether it'd be exhaust, CAI, downpipe, etc... 2012 infiniti g37s could be bought for like $13k right now while a used 2017 civic si ($21k) plus all those mods adds up.If you look at the 1/4 mile numbers posted on these forums and the g35/37/350z/370z forums, I think a fairly moderately tuned si can beat a stock g37 on 1/4. On a road course I think the g37 would be faster just by the fat tires and rwd, but it wouldn't be like a gigantic difference. Driver skill would be the difference at that point.
rwd though just is so much more fun than fwd. To be able to control rotation with the pedal and the more neutral balance is a lot of fun.
I came from owning a GTI with DSG transmission, sure it was quick but it was boring.. I traded that in on a Focus ST with the leather recaros. That interior was REALLY NICE for an American car - sure not German nice, but on par with my SI now. That car was fast..but I wanted something smaller and still fun to drive. I ended up with a Fiesta ST. That little 1.6L turbo was no slouch either. Its funny people completely write off these small displacement turbo motors because theyre "slow". I havent heard from anyone that drove a Fiesta ST that didnt think it was a hoot to drive.It might be my personal opinion, but having owned my share of relatively powerful vehicles and driven the 2018 si, I think calling it underpowered is a way too much of a stretch. Civic SI's have ALWAYS been much less powerful against cars like the GTI, focus ST for a long long time now to the point where if you know anything about cars it's pretty much an accepted fact. But the thing that Honda tries to pitch with it's SI trim is deliver a driver's car which is aimed at the whole experience of driving along with great reliability and practicality. Sure the GTI does those things too, is a great drivers car, and would kill the SI straightaway race, but I feel like the SI has always given a different driving feel when compared to it's competition.
That being said i'd agree that if your looking for raw power the G37, and accord sport 2.0t would obviously beat it out in a heartbeat. But just saying that anyone looking for the kind of power that pushes you back into your seat probably wouldn't be looking at civics in the first place. Also, the V6 and now turbo Accords has always been faster than the Civic SI, just the same way a Toyota Camry V6 would destroy a Toyota Gt86 in a straight line. These are two very different cars made for two very different purposes.
Well, I bought a 2014 Q60 AWD to replace my 2016 GTI.
As I expected, on a Honda forum, fanbois will always, no matter what car, defend a Honda using "cost of ownership" calculations.
Even if you can tune a 1.5T into being competitive on paper, you can never tune-out the FWD. I paid $20.9k for a Q60 AWD that will stomp ALL 2WD vehicles on a rainy day (rains A LOT in Seattle), and if I MUST out-perform an over-tuned $24k Si, I could just throw a S/C kit on my AWD car and have an un-touchable launch-monster, for not much more money. And the VQ37HR handles boost far better than the 1.5T does. If we even bother to entertain those metrics.
TBH, the Civics ARE great. The Sport HB was a very appealing car. But, I want a more substantial car. For better or for worse, the G37 is literally more substantial. Way heavier, way more solid, everything is plush. The tech on 2010+ cars is good enough. I guess I am getting old and I like a heavy GT car. The Civics felt about as excellent as can be expected, at a price point. But, the price point of the G37 was nearly $50K originally.
I had a G37S coupe it was fun but after you mod the Civic Si you will pull on it. I was full bolt on and only got 299whp on a mustang dyno with the G37, also factor in the SI is lighter.I'm not sure I agree that tuning the Si will put it close to the G37s...
Don't know a lot about the G37 but a G37s makes 316bhp/265lb-ft and weights 3790lbsI'm not sure I agree that tuning the Si will put it close to the G37s...
Yeah obviously stock for stock the Si will probably lose to a G37/G37s but tuned I'd have my money on the Civic. Like you said, some good tires would go a long way and once boost hits I can definitely see it beating the G.Don't know a lot about the G37 but a G37s makes 316bhp/265lb-ft and weights 3790lbs
A TSP Stage 1 civic makes 237whp/281wtq and weights 2900lbs
Put some good tires on the Si and im 100% sure it'll keep up or beat the G37 on a roll.