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Featured Our Review of the new 2017 1.5T Manual Transmission Civic!

Discussion in 'General 10th Gen Discussions' started by procivic, Dec 29, 2016.




  1. procivic

    procivic Senior Member Elite Sponsor

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    Our newest shop car, a 2017 Aegean Blue Civic 1.5T 6 Speed, is already proving to be a ton of fun. The power in the non-Si model is amazing, and Stu recently did a video review of the car in 100% stock form (well, with 91 octane in the tank).

    He also reflashed the ECU with a FlashPro Stage 2 (+6 PSI) tune and tested it out at a local autocross event. With the added 23 horsepower and 50 lb-ft of torque, this car is a beast!

    FlashPro product link for more info: http://www.procivic.com/pages-product_car_part_info/product-1131/index.html





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    Props to Honda for offering the 1.5T option with a manual transmission. Honda has gotten back in the performance and enthusiast game with the latest Civic offerings. The Civic regular, SI and Type R. A Civic for every consumer.
    This is gutsy decision considering SUVs are now the norm over regular sedans.
     
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    Love the videos and the potential of this car! FlashPro is the real deal!
     
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    Good initial review from Stu. I agree that the EX is a solid value for those wanting a fun DD. But this car really needs better brakes/suspension/tires to properly handle the extra power from a flash.
     
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    procivic Senior Member Elite Sponsor

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    Yes, we agree. The suspension and tire issue will be fixed shortly on our shop car :)
     
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    procivic Senior Member Elite Sponsor

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    Here's a short acceleration test between our 9th Gen and 10th Gen shop cars. Keep in mind the 2014 9th Gen Si has a cold air intake, exhaust, big bore throttle body and spacer, and a custom tune (91 octane). Based on our dyno tests, we are guessing it puts about about 230 hp at the flywheel. The 10th Gen EX-T only has the FlashPro Stage 2 (+6 PSI) tune and 91 octane.

     
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    That was the shortest race ever! A race to 60mph from a 50mph rolling start?
    Could the 10th gen take on the SI in a longer race?
     
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    Im curious to know how the flash pro affect fuel economy? Does it affect it negatively or is it still the same?
     
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    So.... there's apparently a lot more power available in the 1.5 T than Honda is designing for. The fact that the extra power released by the Hondata tune overwhelms the suspension and drivetrain drives home the point that the best cars are a balanced package. Release more power, and upgrades are going to be required to the wheels, tires, brakes, shocks, drivetrain (LSD), etc. In my youth, I'd buy the stock vehicle and add the required mods. Older now, and with less time and patience to tweak settings, I look forward to purchasing an Si - a car where Honda has spent the time getting all the components to work properly together.

    Thanks for putting together these videos. Very helpful. There is so little info out there on how the new Civic performs from a handling standpoint.
     
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    Fun video. I like how an autox or road course shows where a car's limitations are & shows how terrible typical stock all season tires can be ( the weakest link, imo).

    I think it'll be a fun, balanced car with not too many parts. My guess would be that a flashpro tune, good tires, good alignment (not sure what range the stock setup allows), and a rear sway bar would make for good package.

    Curious how supportive were the seats during the drive?
     
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    procivic Senior Member Elite Sponsor

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    It was actually from about 20 mph....I know I know, we almost didn't publish the video because it was so short. Still, at least you can get an idea of what would happen in a real race. We'll try to setup a full race in the near future on a closed course.
     
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    The seats were OK but better side bolstering would definitely help. I'm pretty certain the Si will have seats that hold you better.
     
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    Touring already comes with swaybars front and rear. From what I remember they are a pretty good size - about 15/16" front and 3/4" rear. (Just a guess from memory). Usually not too much work or cost to buy and install a larger size.

    Probably could also use stiffer shocks and springs - but now the effort and cost is increasing
     
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    I think when you have to do more suspension tuning things can get difficult to set up well, especially with full-on coilovers. Only product I've ever been very happy with are the ohlins installed by a race shop muellerized on my Evo. Most Japanese setups are too stiff.
     
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    thanks for the videos!
     
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